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It is not once you study the subject at hand. Early church members viewed Paul as a Martyr, not some grand theologian. And if you understood the first thing about history, you would know we only have a fraction of what once existed. You would also know early christianity was wide and diverse and there was no canon early on to draw from. Paul was widespread, but widespread within small communities that slowley evolved. Look how popular Marcion was and we dont have anything from him, less countless people that viewed him as a heretic, and wrote enough bad things about him, we know exactly what his view was. There is no good reason to question pauls dating unless one wants to provide a date to make a point to further the knowledge we have gained thus far. How large and organized was this movement first century? |
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You also don't know how to format your posts - you can put quotes or a quote box around what you are quoting for clarity. Read your source past the snippet you quoted: "Acts 18 reports that a year-and-a-half into Paul's sojourn in Corinth, . . . " This source is using the book of Acts to date Paul's letters. This is quite common, but if you had followed the debates on this over the years that I have, you would know that this methodology is based on quicksand. An earlier generation of scholars assumed that Acts represented actual history, and matched Paul's letters to events in Acts to date the letters. This consensus had crumbled among all but the most devout evangelicals. This is why appeals to authority are useless. You claim that these are scholarly sources, but when you look into them, you find theologians masquerading as historians. |
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Not my fault you wont accept the evidence everyone else does. Paul is so multiply attested its not funny |
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Its also factual Pauline Epistles are the earliest writings attributed to this movement. Deal with it. OR provide another date and hypothesis that makes sense. because nuh uh doesnt cut it. |
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