PhilosopherJay

Hi Tim,

I haven't posted this list in a while. Here are 70 authors who support some sort of Jesus Myth position. 39 are alive and 31 are dead:

Living:
1) G. A. Wells, 2) Robert M. Price, 3) Thomas L. Thompson, 4) Timothy Freke, 5) Peter Gandy, 6) Herman Detering, 7) Alvar Ellegard*, 8) Darrell Doughty, 9) Frank Zindler, 10) Michael Turton, 11) Luigi Cascioli, 12) Michel Onfray, 13) Francesco Carotta, 14) Tom Harpur, 15) Hal Childs, 16), Herbert Cutner, 17) Michael O. Wise, 18) Burton Mack*, 19) Jan Sammer, 20) Arthur M. Rothstein, 21) Michael Martin, 22 D.M. Murdock (AKA Acharya S.) 23) Richard Carrier, 24) Earl Doherty, 25) Joseph Atwill, 26) Ken Humphreys, 27) Harold Liedner, 28) Zane Winter, 29) Gary Courtney, 30) Michael Hoffman, 31) Max Rieser, 32) R.G. Price, 33) Barbara G. Walker, 34) C. Dennis McKinsey, 35) Lawrence Dalton, 36) Shirley Strutton Dalton, 37) Hayyim ben Yehoshua, 38) Brian Flemming, 39) Jay Raskin

Not Living:
1) Georg Morris Cohen Brandes, 2) John (J.M.) Robertson 3) Bertrand Russell, 4) Joseph McCabe 5) Livio C. Stecchini, 6) Thomas Whittaker, 7) John E. Remsburg, 8) Arthur Drews, 9) P. L. Couchoud, 10) John Allegro, 11) van den Bergh van Eysinga, 12) Robert Taylor, 13) Joseph Wheless, 14) Peter Jensen, 15) Gordon Rylands, 16) Guy Fau, 17) Mangasar Mugurditch Mangasarian, 18) Alvin Boyd Kuhn, 19) John E. Remsburg, 20) Marshall J. Gauvin, 21) J.G. Jackson, 22) William Benjamin Smith, 23) S.G.F. Brandon*, 24) Marcel Simon*, 25) Cita Rom Goel, 26) Salomon Reinach, 27) Albert Bayet, 28) M.F.A. Aulard, 29) Prosper Alfaric 30) Yosef ben-Jochannan, 31) Alan Dundes

Warmly,

Philosopher Jay

Transient

I would like christianity to be true. I would need God to explain a lot better some things from the OT.
I do not wish that christianity is true so much that I pretend to believe something that I cannot or that I sort of forget lots of things that make it difficult for me to say "I believe".

I would like to live forever with friendly people and with a loving god who cares for those under him. I would not mind obeying sensible laws and would appreciate sensible laws.

However, sadly I do not think that this will happen.
As I am nearly 60 years old this is a bit sad for me but then I think, well everyone else that has ever existed is going to extinction so why should I complain.

This is a very strange world we live in.

TimBowe

To sum up, modern critical methods fail to support the Christ myth theory. It has 'again and again been answered and annihilated by first rank scholars.' In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." - Michael Grant, Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels (Scribner, 1995).

Barefoot Bree

So, instead of actually answering any of our points, you retreat once more into posting a quote from some historian claiming the case is closed, without any further evidence to back it up.

I'm done here.

TimBowe

Your done because there isn't anything you can say.

Ktotwf

This quote right here is EXACTLY what is wrong with your entire spiel in this thread.

It is a meaningless appeal to authority that says nothing about the topic.

aa5874

Why do you accuse most people here of hatred of religion instead of providing the evidence or sources of antiquity that can support your position?

The expert opinion of a scholar is not evidence or a source of antiquity of Jesus.

TimBowe

The Christ myth theory has again and again been answered. That is fact

Ktotwf

The Theory of Evolution has been "answered" again and again. That doesn't mean the answer was good, or that it changed anything.

TimBowe

Historians and scholars regard the nonexistence hypothesis effectively refuted. Thats another fact.