sschlichter

Of course I can name who I think the suffering servant is. What is the relevance?

Why ask me when the passage answers your question.

It appears he will not appear like a King

(v2) he had no stately form or majesty that might catch our attention,
no special appearance that we should want to follow him.
(v3) He was despised and rejected by people,
one who experienced pain and was acquainted with illness;
people hid their faces from him;
he was despised, and we considered him insignificant.

It appears he will bear the sins of others (compare with Lev 16 and passover)

(Isa 53:4) But he lifted up our illnesses,
he carried our pain;
even though we thought he was being punished,
attacked by God, and afflicted for something he had done.
(Isa 53:5) He was wounded because of our rebellious deeds,
crushed because of our sins;
he endured punishment that made us well;
because of his wounds we have been healed.

All of us (in contrast to him) deserve what he is getting but the Lord put it on him

(Isa 53:6) All of us had wandered off like sheep;
each of us had strayed off on his own path,
but the LORD caused the sin of all of us to attack him.
(Isa 53:7) He was treated harshly and afflicted,
but he did not even open his mouth.
Like a lamb led to the slaughtering block,
like a sheep silent before her shearers,
he did not even open his mouth.

He will be convicted, killed, and buried.

(Isa 53:8) He was led away after an unjust trial -
but who even cared?
Indeed, he was cut off from the land of the living;
because of the rebellion of his own people he was wounded.
(Isa 53:9) They intended to bury him with criminals,
but he ended up in a rich man's tomb,
because he had committed no violent deeds,
nor had he spoken deceitfully.

yet, he will prosper and acquit many

(Isa 53:10) Though the LORD desired to crush him and make him ill,
once restitution is made,
he will see descendants and enjoy long life,
and the LORD's purpose will be accomplished through him.
(Isa 53:11) Having suffered, he will reflect on his work,
he will be satisfied when he understands what he has done.
"My servant will acquit many,
for he carried their sins.

then he will reign after submitting to death

(Isa 53:12) So I will assign him a portion with the multitudes,
he will divide the spoils of victory with the powerful,
because he willingly submitted to death
and was numbered with the rebels,
when he lifted up the sin of many
and intervened on behalf of the rebels."

Joseph represents a type of the servant, he was loved of his father, despised by his brothers, betrayed, thrown into the ground, he rose up again, blessed the entire world, saved his people, and ascended to the right hand of power.

aa5874

And who called Joseph the Messiah of the Jews and asked him to forgive their sins?

sschlichter

It appears Jacob did.

(Gen 50:17) 'Tell Joseph this: Please forgive the sin of your brothers and the wrong they did when they treated you so badly.' Now please forgive the sin of the servants of the God of your father." When this message was reported to him, Joseph wept.

Please note that Joseph also saved the Gentiles.

(Gen 47:25) They replied, "You have saved our lives! You are showing us favor, and we will be Pharaoh's slaves."

aa5874

I did not ask you about Joseph's brothers or his father. A person forgiving some family member is not known to be a Messiah.

1.Who called Joseph a Messiah?

2. Who asked Joseph as a Messiah to forgive their sins?

sschlichter

You seem confused. Perhaps this will help.

aa5874

No. I am not confused at all.

Please answer my simple questions.

1. Who called Joseph a Messiah of the Jews?

2. Who asked Joseph as a Messiah of the Jews to forgive their sins?

sschlichter

You must be confused or you would not be asking confused questions. What do you mean by messiah? What does that mean to you?

aa5874

Your posts are recorded. This was your response earlier. Again, who called Joseph a Messiah of the Jews?

And, who asked Joseph as a Jewish Messiah to forgive their sins

sschlichter

What is recorded in my post is that Joseph is a model (known as a type). A subsequent post explained typology to you. You are either unwilling to understand or incapable. I suspect the former.

aa5874

Please name the person, prophet, Gentile, Roman, Greek, Jew, or people in antiquity who claimed Joseph was a model Messiah?

My question is extremely simply.