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ksagnostic · 10-30-2003, 09:48 PM

The final hospital scene from the original Brian's Song.

The scene in What Dreams May Come, when Robin Williams realizes that Cuba Gooding is not his old mentor, but actually his son.

The aforementioned scene in Elephant Man, when the Doctor's Wife shows him kindness, and the scene where John Merrick actually has a performance done for him.

The final scene in Saving Private Ryan, where an aged Ryan attends the 50th Anniversary of D-Day ceremony, visits the Captain's grave, and asks his wife did he live a good life.

Mr. Holland's Opus, not the scene where his former students perform his piece, but the storyline before that, when he is explaining to the starstruck student why he is not going with her. To people who have had a successful marriage of some length, that scene resonates, or at least it did for me, particularly as a widower.

Contact, because it was one of my late wife's favorite movies, and because of the "For Carl" at the end. That movie exhibited the sheer honor that can be had in the skeptical, scientific viewpoint.

There are others, but it is late and I can't recall them very well.

xorbie · 10-30-2003, 10:43 PM

Although a lot of people dislike this movie, I thought the scene in The Patriot when Mel Gibson takes his son's flag and rides with it on his hourse past the soilders who are heading off to battle. Also, the ensuing battle is pretty powerful (the slowmo with the music, anyway).

Also, in Braveheart, the scene at the end when they throw his sword in the field and charge. That one sends shivers down my spine.

Joel

Mageth · 10-31-2003, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Barefoot Bree
Never saw Full Metal Jacket, but are you referring to the march in The Bridge Over the River Kwai, with the POWs marching and whistling Colonel Bogey's March? (You know, the same one the girl campers parodied in the original Parent Trap ---- aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! I'm going fogey again..... someone stop me.....)

No...I'm pretty sure it was Halls of Montezuma.

Doctor X · 10-31-2003, 06:43 PM

Hedwig:

Indeed . . . it is a hard film to watch a second time. I enjoyed, for example, The Cook, the Thief, his Wife, and Her Lover--but I had rented it, so I could shut it off and take a shower periodically. It has powerful scenes certainly, but it disturbes--if not offends--a lot of people, so I did not include it.

Hope's Daughter:

Do you refer to Kurosawa's Iriku--which I probably just mispelled. It is a Japanese film about the end of the life of a bureaucrat who wishes to leave a mark. There is a famous scene of him on a swing singing a song.

--J.D.

Opera Nut · 10-31-2003, 10:47 PM

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest --

the ending where the Chief (Will Sampson) sees Randal Patrick McMurphy (Jack Nicholson) staggering around like a zombie -- on the ward in the middle of the night when all the inmates are asleep -- they have performed a lobotomy on him, because of the riot, and he is just a shell of himself -- the Chief smothers him with a pillow in an act of mercy killing. Then the Chief picks up the marble washstand from the bathroom and throws it out the window, breaking the steel mesh and escaping to his freedom in the mist.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

Who is sane and who is insane? Those who follow the rules or those who break them? The literal soul killing of live people in institutions for the sake of "order".

I was so impressed with this movie when it came out that I dragged my mother and sister to it and saw it three times. Cried all three times too.

=========
Hilary and Jackie -

An excellent, excellent movie that nobody noticed. About the sibling rivalry between the du Pre sisters. Hillary played the flute, got married and had children. Jackie was a famous British cellist in the late 1960s who had unbelievable energy and talent. She married a young conductor, Daniel Barenboim, during the Six Day War and converted to Judaism. She contracted multiple sclerosis after only a few years of performing, and this movie shows her decline as she experiences it from the inside.

She's rehearsing and her bow flies out of her hand, for example. She hears strange noises. She deteriorates physically and finally dies in 1989.

I was extremely fortunate to see Jacqueline du Pre perform the Elgar Cello Concerto in the late 1960s when she was the young star of the classical music world, and Emily Watson does an amazing job of recreating the dynamism of Jackie's fire.

A true story of an amazing talent, and a tragic one.

Oh, and BTW, according to the two biographies I have checked, the du Pre family told Jackie that she contracted multiple sclerosis because she became a Jew. [SARCASM ALERT:] Christian love strikes again.......

===Amadeus - as has already been mentioned, the end when Mozart's body is dumped in a mass grave as the "Confutatis, maledictus" from his Requiem Mass is played, highlighting the tragedy of his early death.

====The Wizard of Oz -- The end where Dorothy realizes that when she went looking for what she was missing, that she had everything she needed within herself. Her friends who were looking for brains, courage and a heart were just aspects of herself. A very humanist movie.

====Schindler's List -- Near the end where the workers make a ring for Schindler and Ben Kingsley, the accountant, says, "It says in the Talmud that he who saves one life saves the world entire; he who destroys one life destroys the world entire" and then Schindler starts ripping his cufflinks & Nazi party membership pin off and saying "I could have saved ten people with this, and a hundred with this".

At the end where the descendants of the people Schindler saved walk by his grave and put stones on his grave and the titles tell you how many descendants there are.

kaii2 · 11-01-2003, 03:25 AM

I like the part in Titanic when Rose is being lowered off of the boat in the raft, but looks up at Jack and leaps off of the raft back onto the sinking Titanic. E.T.'s "I'll be right here" scene is a super tear-jerker as well.

Dancer · 11-01-2003, 06:30 PM

The "coming out of blackout" scene at the end of Apollo 13 gets me every time (especially after Columbia). IMHO, Ron Howard (and Ed Harris) got robbed at Oscar-time...

Also, the medic's death in Saving Private Ryan had me in fetal position (at least as much as Omaha Beach did).

callmejay · 11-04-2003, 01:09 PM

The 25th hour was really powerful, but I can't pick out a specific scene right now.

Gregg · 11-04-2003, 07:27 PM

Ye godz...I don't think ANYONE has mentioned anything from THE GODFATHER, Parts 1 & 2, yet!!!!

Michael Corleone lighting a cigarette for Enzo the baker on the steps of the hospital while waiting for the hit men, and realizing that while the baker is a shivering, nervous wreck, his own hands are perfect steady.

The double execution in the restaurant.

Michael at the baptism ceremony, renouncing Satan, while his killers "settle all family business."

Part 2--

Kay tells Michael about her abortion. Pacino's performance in this scene is awesome. The shock and horror and rage in his face is palpable, and he conveys it with little more than a widening of his eyes, a certain set of his jaw.

The final elimination of Michael's enemies, including his own brother, as he sits in silent contemplation in the boathouse.

Quantum Ninja · 11-04-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Gregg
[B]Ye godz...I don't think ANYONE has mentioned anything from THE GODFATHER, Parts 1 & 2, yet!!!!

Michael Corleone lighting a cigarette for Enzo the baker on the steps of the hospital while waiting for the hit men, and realizing that while the baker is a shivering, nervous wreck, his own hands are perfect steady.

The double execution in the restaurant.

Michael at the baptism ceremony, renouncing Satan, while his killers "settle all family business."

What about Vito Corleone's death in the tomato garden while playing with his grandson? One of the all time best movie scenes IMO.

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10-30-2003, 09:48 PM	#101
ksagnostic Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Wichita, KS, USA Posts: 2,514	The final hospital scene from the original Brian's Song. The scene in What Dreams May Come, when Robin Williams realizes that Cuba Gooding is not his old mentor, but actually his son. The aforementioned scene in Elephant Man, when the Doctor's Wife shows him kindness, and the scene where John Merrick actually has a performance done for him. The final scene in Saving Private Ryan, where an aged Ryan attends the 50th Anniversary of D-Day ceremony, visits the Captain's grave, and asks his wife did he live a good life. Mr. Holland's Opus, not the scene where his former students perform his piece, but the storyline before that, when he is explaining to the starstruck student why he is not going with her. To people who have had a successful marriage of some length, that scene resonates, or at least it did for me, particularly as a widower. Contact, because it was one of my late wife's favorite movies, and because of the "For Carl" at the end. That movie exhibited the sheer honor that can be had in the skeptical, scientific viewpoint. There are others, but it is late and I can't recall them very well.

10-30-2003, 10:43 PM	#102
xorbie Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Champaign, IL or Boston, MA Posts: 6,360	Although a lot of people dislike this movie, I thought the scene in The Patriot when Mel Gibson takes his son's flag and rides with it on his hourse past the soilders who are heading off to battle. Also, the ensuing battle is pretty powerful (the slowmo with the music, anyway). Also, in Braveheart, the scene at the end when they throw his sword in the field and charge. That one sends shivers down my spine. Joel

10-31-2003, 06:43 PM	#104
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Hedwig: Indeed . . . it is a hard film to watch a second time. I enjoyed, for example, The Cook, the Thief, his Wife, and Her Lover--but I had rented it, so I could shut it off and take a shower periodically. It has powerful scenes certainly, but it disturbes--if not offends--a lot of people, so I did not include it. Hope's Daughter: Do you refer to Kurosawa's Iriku--which I probably just mispelled. It is a Japanese film about the end of the life of a bureaucrat who wishes to leave a mark. There is a famous scene of him on a swing singing a song. --J.D.

10-31-2003, 10:47 PM	#105
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest -- the ending where the Chief (Will Sampson) sees Randal Patrick McMurphy (Jack Nicholson) staggering around like a zombie -- on the ward in the middle of the night when all the inmates are asleep -- they have performed a lobotomy on him, because of the riot, and he is just a shell of himself -- the Chief smothers him with a pillow in an act of mercy killing. Then the Chief picks up the marble washstand from the bathroom and throws it out the window, breaking the steel mesh and escaping to his freedom in the mist. Absolutely heartbreaking. Who is sane and who is insane? Those who follow the rules or those who break them? The literal soul killing of live people in institutions for the sake of "order". I was so impressed with this movie when it came out that I dragged my mother and sister to it and saw it three times. Cried all three times too. ========= Hilary and Jackie - An excellent, excellent movie that nobody noticed. About the sibling rivalry between the du Pre sisters. Hillary played the flute, got married and had children. Jackie was a famous British cellist in the late 1960s who had unbelievable energy and talent. She married a young conductor, Daniel Barenboim, during the Six Day War and converted to Judaism. She contracted multiple sclerosis after only a few years of performing, and this movie shows her decline as she experiences it from the inside. She's rehearsing and her bow flies out of her hand, for example. She hears strange noises. She deteriorates physically and finally dies in 1989. I was extremely fortunate to see Jacqueline du Pre perform the Elgar Cello Concerto in the late 1960s when she was the young star of the classical music world, and Emily Watson does an amazing job of recreating the dynamism of Jackie's fire. A true story of an amazing talent, and a tragic one. Oh, and BTW, according to the two biographies I have checked, the du Pre family told Jackie that she contracted multiple sclerosis because she became a Jew. [SARCASM ALERT:] Christian love strikes again....... ===Amadeus - as has already been mentioned, the end when Mozart's body is dumped in a mass grave as the "Confutatis, maledictus" from his Requiem Mass is played, highlighting the tragedy of his early death. ====The Wizard of Oz -- The end where Dorothy realizes that when she went looking for what she was missing, that she had everything she needed within herself. Her friends who were looking for brains, courage and a heart were just aspects of herself. A very humanist movie. ====Schindler's List -- Near the end where the workers make a ring for Schindler and Ben Kingsley, the accountant, says, "It says in the Talmud that he who saves one life saves the world entire; he who destroys one life destroys the world entire" and then Schindler starts ripping his cufflinks & Nazi party membership pin off and saying "I could have saved ten people with this, and a hundred with this". At the end where the descendants of the people Schindler saved walk by his grave and put stones on his grave and the titles tell you how many descendants there are.

11-01-2003, 03:25 AM	#106
kaii2 Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Beijing Posts: 147	I like the part in Titanic when Rose is being lowered off of the boat in the raft, but looks up at Jack and leaps off of the raft back onto the sinking Titanic. E.T.'s "I'll be right here" scene is a super tear-jerker as well.

11-01-2003, 06:30 PM	#107
Dancer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 19	The "coming out of blackout" scene at the end of Apollo 13 gets me every time (especially after Columbia). IMHO, Ron Howard (and Ed Harris) got robbed at Oscar-time... Also, the medic's death in Saving Private Ryan had me in fetal position (at least as much as Omaha Beach did).

11-04-2003, 01:09 PM	#108
callmejay Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 466	The 25th hour was really powerful, but I can't pick out a specific scene right now.

11-04-2003, 07:27 PM	#109
Gregg Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,877	Ye godz...I don't think ANYONE has mentioned anything from THE GODFATHER, Parts 1 & 2, yet!!!! Michael Corleone lighting a cigarette for Enzo the baker on the steps of the hospital while waiting for the hit men, and realizing that while the baker is a shivering, nervous wreck, his own hands are perfect steady. The double execution in the restaurant. Michael at the baptism ceremony, renouncing Satan, while his killers "settle all family business." Part 2-- Kay tells Michael about her abortion. Pacino's performance in this scene is awesome. The shock and horror and rage in his face is palpable, and he conveys it with little more than a widening of his eyes, a certain set of his jaw. The final elimination of Michael's enemies, including his own brother, as he sits in silent contemplation in the boathouse.

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