burning flames

"jesus is a terrorist and passive aggressive"


christianity = fear of hell. in every case. in every convert. in every follower...

when you realize what god has done for you, you will see how much he loves you

this is the big argument of christianity.

its a dark, bleak statement.

lets break it down

does this have a gloomy overtone... adreadful overtone?

yes it does

what is god doing, save from hell? yes. thats huge. but it was his idea in the firstplace. I agree that it is immense that people get saved from eternal torment. IT is insane. IT is the only way out.... but thats a horrible thing in the firstplace. humans arent that bad. no one should have that. its too dreadful. its too terrible. its too screwed up. and thats why it seems so good. tyhats the whole thing. hell scares the living crap out of people and jesus offers relief. the imagination puts so much dread and terror into hell that by the time the m ind is scared enough of hell, jesus is bound to make it feel better. the realization that christ saves from hell is awful. its absolutely awful, its not even sickening. its on another level. horrific, dreadful, gloomy, desolate. soooo desolate. soo dark and hopeless.

are you telling me this isnt a fear based religion?

this god isnt using love, hes using fear. hes convincing people they are all going to hell and he is the only way out. thats cold man, hardcore, and oh so cold, real effing low. screw him



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talk to any chrisitian and you will see someone who is relieved that they dont go to hell.

is saving from hell good? yes.

is creating people and letting them live in a world where you find them all worthy of hell and you fully intend and carry out the promise of sending them there but offer them a way out knowing that many will go to hell anyway good?

no

end of story

want to know what that is.

passive agressive. in a nutshell. look it up.



imagine I visit my friend who is an animal enthusiast who raises animals. lets say while he is out working I kill one of his animals and cook it for him for dinner

is cooking him dinner good? yes

is killing one of his animals and using it to cook him dinner good?

no passive aggressive

espritch

The aggression of Christianity isn't all that passive. Just ask the victims of the Inquisitions, and the Witch hunts, and the Crusades.

People often note that the Torah is full of stories where God commands violence, war, and killing. But they often fail to note that Hell, the eternal torture of God's "enemies", is essentially an invention of Christianity, which makes Christianity far worse.

Islam ran with this idea (spelled out in graphic detail in the Koran) and added the notion of martyrdom and holy war. Thus each new incarnation of Abrahamaic faith seems intent of being even more morally repugnant than the last.

Stumpjumper

What about Christians who don't believe in hell?

Are we afraid of heck or something

burning flames

why do you believe?

what is jesus saving you from? why did the precious blood of your lord have to be spilled?

Stumpjumper

Believe what?

I consider what I believe to be true because I believe they accurately reference the real world in some way...

The angst of existence. It is a message that points me towards the light and I have yet to find another light...

I don't think it did have to be spilled...

WWJD4aKlondikeBar

So are you saying that all I have to do to save you from a life of pointless religious devotion is to prove to you that modern texts misrepresent the original texts - or the supposed "real word" that they're derrived from? Can't be that easy.

Corona688

So do a lot of war movies. Even if their premise is almost entirely made up they try to be consistent to the setting.

Clearly that doesn't have a rats ass to do with truth.