Julian

I pronounce them TAE-shan (a proper latin pronounciation would probably be TAH-tee-an) and pa-PIE-as (In Greek it would depend on where the pronounciation marks are but probably pa-PEE-as or PA-pee-as). Flavius Josephus would be FLAH-vee-us djo-SEE-fus. Other may say these things differently.

Julian

S.C.Carlson

TAY-shun
PAY-pee-us
FLAY-vee-us Joe-SEE-fuss

markfiend

Origen? Seems to me it should be pronounced with a hard G but the pronunciation guide on answers.com has it sounding very similar to the word "origin"

Awmte

Hey thanks dude. So Tay-Tee-an would also be correct? You know, I had this really weird feeling that Papias would be pronounced like papayas or something...

Diogenes the Cynic

In Greek- ay-oo-THOO-fro.
in Modern English- Yoo-THY-fro.

Diogenes the Cynic

In Greek it's PAH-pee-as (rhymes with "gracias")

Tatian was Syrian so I don't know if the pronunciation of his name should follow strict Greek phonetics but TAH-tee-ahn would be the Greek pronunciation.

The Latin pronunciation of Flavius is FLAH-vee-us.

Awmte

Much thanks :notworthy:. OK, last derail, I promise. First, Is 'THY' supposed to be pronounced as in 'Dye' or as 'Th' in 'Thanks'?
Second, does 'Papias' have anything to do with the etymology of 'papal'? Sort of like Justin Martyr and 'martyr'?

Diogenes the Cynic

Yes and yes. Pronounce it just like "thigh."
No. Papias is a Greek name (which my Liddel and Scott tells me means "janitor").. Pope and Papal are from a Latin word, papa, meaning "father."

S.C.Carlson

Actually, that meaning of Papias is medieval (LSJ cites the 12th century John Tzetzes for that meaning). The Glare Supplement to LSJM indicates that in earlier Greek (incl. Aristophanes) "papias" meant "dad." However, it is a common Phrygian name, probably not Greek at all.

J. B. Lightfoot, Colossians, 48, noted that it was a Phrygian epithet of Zeus, and when used as the name of a mortal, its Greek equivalent is Diogenes, citing an inscription which reads: παπίας τοῦ ΣτÏ?άτωνος á½? καλούμενος Διογένης ("Papias, son of Strato, who is called Diogenes").

Stephen

Chris Weimer

Is it really? Chambers-Murray gives us the word popa: popa, -ae m. - a Roman priest's assistant or minister who slew the victim.