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spin · 08-17-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Celsus

Make what you will of that

The young don't even know who Mata Hari was!

(Yo, Celsus! :wave: )

spin

Celsus · 08-17-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by spin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celsus

Make what you will of that

The young don't even know who Mata Hari was!

(Yo, Celsus! :wave: )

Hi hi!

I was just thinking that a thread with Rodney Stark and no Bede just could not be right, but then I did a double take and there it was :rolling:

spin · 08-17-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

Hey Joseph, have you ever posted on Catholic Answers forum? You could have quite a debate with them over there!

Its far easier to bash catholicism when not in the presence of bona fide catholic scholars.....even the protestants do it.

Perhaps, you could invite Maladetto XVI over. He's a bona fide catholic scholar.

spin

semiopen · 08-17-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IamJoseph

Science = HOW; History = WHEN; Geography = WHERE; Math = WHAT; Religion = WHICH.

All of the above come equally under THE LAW with no exceptions. The HOW is not greater than the WHEN or WHERE but fully intergrated with it and cannot subsist by itself.

The WHY is yet missing - which is not to say there isn't one.

This looks dubious.

WHO is missing also.

Is this original? If not, where does it come from?

mountainman · 08-17-2009, 06:55 PM

Pre-school

mountainman · 08-17-2009, 07:04 PM

I missed this earlier. There are some very well researched articles in here such as from-catapults-to-cosmology. Does anyone know if Carrier comments anywhere about Stark's published and often discussed and asserted statistical figures for the rise of "christian demographic population" during the epoch before the fourth century.

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Carrier on Stark

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Originally Posted by Richard Carrier

Last year I recorded a new lengthy interview for the Polyschizmatic Reprobates Hour on Rodney Stark's disastrously awful treatment of ancient science. ... Together this is essentially a two-part lambaste of Rodney Stark's embarrassing forray into ancient history, where I pillory his claim that Christianity made science possible, by educating the listener on the actual historical facts of Greco-Roman science (and technology). We quote his books For the Glory of God and The Victory of Reason and dissect their absurd falsehoods point-by-point. Each show runs 45 minutes.

Thor Q. Mada · 08-17-2009, 07:26 PM

Christianity caused at least 500 years delay in scientific development. Who knows, cancer might have been cured long time ago wasn't it for a bunch of power hungry idiots in robes.

Joan of Bark · 08-17-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

Hey Joseph, have you ever posted on Catholic Answers forum? You could have quite a debate with them over there!

Its far easier to bash catholicism when not in the presence of bona fide catholic scholars.....even the protestants do it.

Vinnie

I'm actually posting on that board now. There is a lot of action there and I hope others here drop by to check it out. Catholics are a little more logical than protestants, and a little more tolerant of those with different beliefs. Of course it is a bit of a patronizing tolerance, but still ...

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