David B

Isn't the number of the beast 616?

http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1113...evalued-to-616

David B

Toto

There are serious discussions of the number of the Beast, and anyone who needs to revisit that issue may search the forum for them, but this thread has earned a ticket to Elsewhere.

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

Too bad you didn't write that all down on paper... at least it could've been put to some practical use, to wipe my buttocks.

I was hoping that Russian guy with the 666 web site would show up and you two could hammer out the details of 666.


We should start a debate forum for these kind of guys down here in Elsewhere.

Corona688

From http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/evilfinder/ef.shtml

Numerology is stupid. Any questions?

Larsguy47

Numerology works, if you know how to work it.

Case in point something simple enough even for evolutionists, a week of 70 weeks.

70 weeks is 490 days which are converted to 490 years. This amounts to 7 days of 490 years each.

No Jesus arrives at the 70th week of one of these days, being baptized in 29 CE. So the 70th week would be from 29-36CE. What this does though, is FIXES the entire week.

We can go forward and backward to see how this week dates other events. If the week ends in 36CE it begins in 455BCE. Two more days back in time is 980 years which takes us back all the way to 1435BCE. That's far enough back to when the Jews were in Egypt. That tells us that 455BCE-36CE must be the THIRD DAY. The focus is the 7th day. SEVEN is a major Bible number. If Christ was to arrive and fulfill anything, then certainly it would be during the 70th week of the 7th day, right? That's like doubly special.

Plus the 70th week of the 7th day is also the 490th week of the entire week! So the numbers start to really pile up for the 7th 70th week. So when is this critical 70th week?

It's easy to simply count down four more days! So E-A-S-Y, even a non Bible person can do that. 4 x 490 is 1960. Add 1960 to 36CE and we know the 7th 70-week period ends in 1996 and thus the 7th 70th week is from 1989-1996 AD.

Now I think, even if you didn't believe the Bible, it's interesting to understand that this week is extremely significant if anything were to be fulfilled. It just happened not too long ago. It's the ending of an era in the Biblical timeline.

I think even if you don't believe the Bible or in anything else, just knowing some have extracted this calculation and linked it to a modern prediction is stunning, if not ominous. You know?

LG47

David B

So what do you think of this stuff? Predictions taken from a mathematical(ish) approach to an old book.

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

David B

Amedeo

In the present context, I ASKED, I DID NOT ASSERT, about the validity of a conclusion based on the doctrine of Moses Hess. A question is not an assertion FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO READ.

Neither the original poster nor you have answered my question, but since I did not ask you directly, don't feel that presently I am asking you to answer it. Nobody has to answer it. And you are free to write a dissertation on Moses.

VERITAS FILIA TEMPORIS
Amygdale from Thourioi

Amedeo

Non ti prendo in giro nemmeno io. Ma se dobbiamo dirla in latino, allora

666 = SexSexSex

che i lettori inglesi la prenderanno a modo loro.

E` bene divertirsi nel mondo delle favole.

Ciao

Larsguy47

Certainly there are many ways to hide secret or coded messages and crossword puzzles is one of them.

Per my interpretation, the "three horns" that were opposed by the "little horn" that had all the eyes and was of such great influence as part of the FOURTH BEAST relates to the assasinations of MLK, JFK and RFK; three famous assasinations, but carried out by the same organization controlled by the 4th Beast, the 4th beast for lack of a more specific reference represents the secret societies connected with "Babylon the Great" and the ancient Mysteries, meaning the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones and the like.

So understanding the Bible can tell us things even the public can't confirm. When the UN destroyed BTG, this little horn goes with it. Three beasts remain for a year and 3 months.

Of GREAT INTEREST is the Bible predicted a time when there would be just one great superpower in the world, which is now. The Leopard with four wings represents the UN and Allies who are the greatest and undisputed military leaders in the world. That government survives along with the Lion (Japan) and the Bear (Russia and allies) for a year and 3 months after the destruction of BTG. But the little horn, just an agent of the Illuminati, so to speak gets axed at the same time.

So what we're expecting is that at some point, in some conflict when secret societies no longer impress the UN is that when they wipe out the money for all these organizations, all organized public religion will go and the CIA will be seen as an agent of the Illuminati as well and will be destroyed.

Now that sounds as off the wall as the United States along with all other countries giving into to the UN as a world government and absolute authority. Yet there are countless films, even this last one about "The Good Shepherd" who continuously remind us about people in the CIA having their own agendas and using the agency to carry these things out.

Some other examples are:

Tom Clancy's "Clear and Present Danger" where the CIA is used for illegal bombing of some drug lords.

Or in "No Way Out" where some Senator carries out a bogus search to cover a murder.

Or "JFK" where the CIA is implicated as being behind the JFK assasination, to keep big money in war going.

Of course, lots of James Bond stuff where he ends up doing things on his own with the understanding the government will disavow his actions, etc.

Who is going to police the police?

Now, of course, most people won't believe this as going to happen, but if you know this in advance, you can be prepared for it.

Even the means of shutting down the Illuminati and public religion is revealed in the Bible. It will be done by confiscating funding. Since that is not particularly effective because of lots of hidden money, the only way I see it happening is that the UN will impose a completely new money standard, perhaps entirely or predominantly electronic. CASH, diamonds, gold will be worth nothing. I could happen. Public expression of religion is considered a "terrorist" act or discriminatory, making it illegal for any religious group to form a corporation or own property or assets. All personal wealth must be cashed in and claimed. So all those old ladies with millions stuffed in their mattresses have to cash it in if they want electronic credit for it. Fom that point on, all money transfers will be monitored.

Now that puts a crimp in organized crime and subsersive war activities in the black market. That's because what do they have to trade with any more? Nothing. Cash is no good. At least not stolen cash. The UN will know about every major fund transfer from one person or institution to the next. The black market will cease to exist. Sure prostitutes will become "secretaries" all of a sudden but that's a small personal transaction compared to buying secret weapons with secret funds. Everything is practically electronic now anyway.

But of course, once the money standard is changed, there's nothing that can be done with all those billions of secret dollars. It will be like that South American country that just kicked out all the foreign oil producers just like that! The only army will be the UN Army.

What is interesting, is that increase in the propaganda about these secret socities now. People will not be that shocked if this happens or if the CIA or FBI are shut down because they were infiltrated by certain members of secret societies who have their own agenda or are in an unmonitored situation. Governments are so corrupt.

Anyway, just ancitipating a huge economic crisis and meldown on the immediate horizon can make a difference.

So far, everything in the Bible's timeline has come true, so "confidence is high" at this point.

Better spend it NOW if you don't think you'll be able to legally claim it later, that's all I can say.... :wave:

LG47

rickP

The Psalms weren't actually numbered the way we have them in modern bibles, were they?