Amaleq13

Exactly! Pretty obvious, yes? Perhaps you might have better luck explaining this to the "dr".

Amaleq13

You don't even understand your own words. :banghead:

The only way you could make the above claim is by also claiming that "amazement" and "joy" are synonymous since Mark only has the former.

But they are not synonymous so this statement continues to be false.

Yes, waiting for you to correct the identified implausibility in your narrative.

Sheshbazzar

"And while they still could not believe it (because of their joy) and were amazed, (or in some "wondered") he said to them, "Do you have anything here to eat?" (Luke 24:41)

Because they "still could not believe it", Do you think that they were "doubting" all of what they were seeing and hearing?
Was their "joy" really keeping them from believing?


Gee, that would seem to clearly indicate that when the accounts were latter written, that even those witnesses who were present at the time doubted, disbelieved, and wondered whether that tale that they came to tell had ever even really happened.

One can just about hear the contents of their unrecorded conversations;

"Hey guys, should we haul our sorry asses all the way off to Galilee to spread this shit?
Or should we just continually hang out in the Temple courts making a pain in the ass of ourselves by speading this crock?

(DID they "have anything there to eat"? Why yes, of course, what else could it be.... but fish?
because after all,... it is really all only a "FISH STORY"!!! )

Hey! I'm just amazed that I ever bought into this fish story in the first place! but filled with joy, that this Forum was able to finally free me from that damned old "gawd-spell" crapola. Escaping, I doubt that I'll ever again be so easily suckered by fishermen with a line or net

:devil1:

Amaleq13

While the disciples do need more convincing than Mary, I think the Contemporary English translation might better convey the meaning:

"The disciples were so glad and amazed that they could not believe it."

More hyperbole than actual doubt, I think, indicating the level of their surprise. And, given the repeated warnings he gave them prior to his execution, constitutes yet another example of their general obtusity.

dr lazer blast

there you go again hitting straw men. The above claim is not synonymous, it is more akin to an oxymoron, using 2 words to describe an event.

Once again, you are back to square 1.

also, i believe achristian already stated he doesn't agree with the interpretation of what I gave, but it still seems plausible. Considering the baker challenge is about plausibility and not about 1 persons interpretation, I suggest you try to stick to the point, and to the rules.

Sheshbazzar

""The disciples were so glad and amazed that they could not believe it" ........so they didn't believe it!

As you can see I continued to edit (as I'd accidentally hit enter before I had finished my composition)
As is clear, I no longer buy any of that ridiculous fish tale.

Doug Shaver

Is any of them online, and do you have a link?

I've never seen one that didn't leave something out.

sschlichter

my last post had a harmonization link in it. can you tell me what is missing from it?

sschlichter

judging by the crap you gave to DLB in this thread, expect you are less joyful about that then you are letting on.

Amaleq13

Your confusion continues unrelenting. The claim to which I referred was that "Both accounts state that they had fear and joy". This is false. They do not both state they had fear and joy. To claim that they do requires "joy" and "amazement" to be synonymous since Mark has fear and amazement rather than fear and joy. If you still don't understand this point, I cannot help you.

Yes, still waiting for you to correct the identified implausibility in your narrative.