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Duvduv · 04-06-2012, 08:25 AM

How do you know Clement of Alexandria existed and that "he" was an expert on anything, unless you concede it's not unlike the writers of The Hardy Boys all known as Franklin W. Dixon having been experts on that series. Or unless you are deferrential to the Church.

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

And I've always been nice to you because I happen to think you have a nice web website. I think you've taken the time to get very familiar with the Gospel of Mark. But let's get real. I'm beginning to suspect that you think that you're more of an authority on Mark than Clement of Alexandria. I'm sorry for pointing out the obvious but you're not the equal to Clement's authority. That's absurd. Clement had the advantage of being at the epicenter of Markan culture a hundred or so years from the composition of the original gospel. I can't believe that you'd suggest that you make a better mythicist argument than Clement. I'm sorry to have to got in the way of you staring in the pool, Narcissus, but the authority of Clement is unrivaled.

stephan huller · 04-06-2012, 08:52 AM

Oh God, you havent even read the material. Just be quiet

Duvduv · 04-06-2012, 08:58 AM

Be quiet?? Hmm. You shouldn't give the impression that you work for the Politburo. However, reading the material doesn't change anything. Now you can go on but without insults.

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

Oh God, you havent even read the material. Just be quiet

stephan huller · 04-06-2012, 09:00 AM

How can you have an opinion on something you havent read? All you do is ask open ended questions and possibilities without doing any research

Duvduv · 04-06-2012, 09:01 AM

You are misjudging me by far, but that's OK.

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

How can you have an opinion on something you havent read? All you do is ask open ended questions and possibilities without doing any research

mountainman · 04-06-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Humphreys

His current Jesus does not amount to much but, hey, the guy is still evolving. And in the real world he wants to keep his job and go on selling books.

Nice review Ken.

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Originally Posted by SH

I dont demonize my opponents.

Who was the world's greatest demonized opponent?

HINT: It wasnt Clement of Alexandria.

aa5874 · 04-06-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephan Huller

Ehrman must have been reading the posts of various mythers for years and finally just thought - I have to crush these idiots. I probably would have wanted to do the same thing if I was him. But again he couldn't have just 'taken up an interest' in this nonsense out of the blue.

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Originally Posted by Vorkosigan

This is a fantasy. He's not on this board. He certainly hasn't been here for years. His ignorance of mythicism is not feigned.

Why all the sudden ranting, Steven? If you're not comfortable around mythicists, go to another board.

There is something that appears very wrong with Bart's Ehrman statement about his supposed ingorance that people questioned the existence of a real Jesus.

Bart claims he is Scholar.

Bart Ehrman also claimed that he is AWARE of the QUEST for an Historical Jesus.Did Jesus Exist? pages 11-12

Bart Ehrman is AWARE of the "greatest work devoted to the study of the historical Jesus" by ALBERT SCHWEITZER 1875-1965.

Bart Ehrman as a Scholar MUST know that Jesus of the NT was regarded as a DIVINE Jesus before the Quest.

Albert Schweitzer wrote over 100 YEARS ago that the image of Jesus has fallen to pieces and destroyed from within by CONCRETE historical problems one after the other.

Bart Ehrman as an historian is NOT likely to have first encountered claims that Jesus did NOT exist as human by e-mails.

Bart Ehrman MUST have been aware of the Quest for an historical Jesus before he got e-mails.

I find extremely difficult to believe that Bart Ehrman could PERSONALLY question the Existence of God and NOT even question the actual existence of Jesus while admitting the very Jesus stories are problematic historically.

stephan huller · 04-06-2012, 10:18 AM

Mountainman

im sure you have a lot of gifts. Youre theory about a fourth century foundation of the church isnt your best moment. Your insistence that it somehow works despite the evidence to the contrary is what's really problematic

Minimalist · 04-06-2012, 02:43 PM

Hello, Ken.

Nice to see you here.

GakuseiDon · 04-06-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainman

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Originally Posted by Ken Humphreys

His current Jesus does not amount to much but, hey, the guy is still evolving. And in the real world he wants to keep his job and go on selling books.

Nice review Ken.

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Originally Posted by SH

I dont demonize my opponents.

Who was the world's greatest demonized opponent?

HINT: It wasnt Clement of Alexandria.

Um... Bart Ehrman?

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04-06-2012, 08:52 AM	#22
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Oh God, you havent even read the material. Just be quiet

04-06-2012, 09:00 AM	#24
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	How can you have an opinion on something you havent read? All you do is ask open ended questions and possibilities without doing any research

04-06-2012, 10:18 AM	#28
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Mountainman im sure you have a lot of gifts. Youre theory about a fourth century foundation of the church isnt your best moment. Your insistence that it somehow works despite the evidence to the contrary is what's really problematic

04-06-2012, 02:43 PM	#29
Minimalist Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,808	Hello, Ken. Nice to see you here.

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