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Old 01-24-2004, 03:15 AM   #71
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[B]...the History Channel; they are running a short series on "Barbarians" and it includes Hitler and Genghis Khan. They are also featuring Osama bin Laden, who, like those who brought us the Inquisitions, justifies his actions with his religion. The two main practical differences between them is that:
Not to hijack, or nitpick, but to point out an interesting perspective. Read "The Devil's Horsemen" by James Chambers. It's a great treatise on the Mongols--Genghis Khan was no barbarian, not by any stretch. Brutal, yes. Pragmatic, absolutely, but more enlightened in many ways than the Europeans in his time. He was a very fascinating character.

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Oh, well that explains it. The poor dumb bastards. I guess some people just don't realize that the only way to life is death.
Sons-a-Bitches didn't worship Christ in a papally approved fashion. Flaming death was too good for them if you ask me. How much better the world would be if we'd just stayed in the dark ages. Alas, the church faltered, the inquisition ceased, and we are screwed.

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[sarcasm]By sharing your opinions with others, you do a great job in leading people away from christianity! Thanks![/sarcasm]
I am glad you noticed! How observant of you.
 
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Sons-a-Bitches didn't worship Christ in a papally approved fashion. Flaming death was too good for them if you ask me. How much better the world would be if we'd just stayed in the dark ages. Alas, the church faltered, the inquisition ceased, and we are screwed.

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Exactly and it just is not good enough to worship Christ. The idea is to become a Christ ourselves so the age of reason could be illuminated by Renaissance entropy.
 
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Oh, well that explains it. The poor dumb bastards. I guess some people just don't realize that the only way to life is death.
"Bumb bastards" is right and they all had a testamony but failed to realize that it has no force while the testator is alive . . . and will be judged after they die (Hebrews 9:17).
 
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[i] Jesus showed us how we must walk on top of the water to get into the promised land so we will have eternal life. [/B]

As this is all fiction, the Inquisition perfectly fits the Barbarian mode. Religions were invented in an attempt to understand the world around people at the time based on their knowledge, or in an attempt to control and rule masses of people, bending them to the rulers' will.


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As this is all fiction, the Inquisition perfectly fits the Barbarian mode. Religions were invented in an attempt to understand the world around people at the time based on their knowledge, or in an attempt to control and rule masses of people, bending them to the rulers' will.

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Well that's fair enough and I will agree that religion is a game we play to make the world a better place to live. The point is that if it is my game let me make the rules and you can either play the game or not, but you should not be allowed to change the rules and return to the dark ages where everything was dark and hid by night.
 
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Actually, the collapse of the Roman Empire, and the subsequent rule of the Catholic Church over kingdoms, resulted in the Dark Ages to begin with!
How can abandoning a religious system that ruled during the Dark Age, and encouraged ignorance, such as threatening to kill Gallileo for daring to say planets orbited around the sun, which contradicted the wondeful bible, cause a return to those same dark ages?


The Inquisition was one of the very things the world would not allow in this day and age, and it was driven by people claiming to do "god"'s work.

Everyone claims that. That's what makes it so ridiculous. Even Hitler told Germany god was on their side. Doesn't make it so for them, and it doesn't make it so for the US or the Inquisition, or Al Quaida, or anyone else on this planet who has ever made that claim.
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Oh, I know exactly what you mean but according to the Romantics the dark ages began with the age of reason when people began look 'elswhere' to find the centre of the universe and Hitler was just another one of those who wanted to reform the word around him instead of within him so he could 'be' the centre of his universe.
 
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Good point and they did! Catholics were not Christians and those who claimed to be Christians would crash at the foot of the cross where their bundle of brushwood caught on fire and that is what the imagery indicates.
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