Clivedurdle

But what exactly is a god Jesus Christ and symbols of fish doing in a Jewish related sect? Please show me the evidence for non monotheistic Jews!

Please show me the representation of fish in Judaism!

What were the ten commandments again? What was that about graven images?

Why is the earliest church in Israel obviously Roman with obvious Roman ways of thinking?

No Robots

The Dura-Europos synagogue is considered to be the world's oldest preserved Jewish synagogue. Discovered in 1932 at Dura-Europos, in modern Syria it was dated by an Aramaic inscription to 244 CE. It contains a forecourt and house of assembly with frescoed walls depicting people and animals, and a Torah shrine in the western wall facing Jerusalem. The frescoes are now displayed in the National Museum of Damascus. Because of these frescoes, the synagogue was at first mistaken for a Greek temple.

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Amedeo

The topic under discussion was not the historicity of any Jesus; I made an off-the-cuff remark about some historical Jesus at the end of the exposition. (The historicity of Jesus was discussed in another thread.)

Before touching on what I stated as the very probable historical Jesus, let me remark that the fish (symbol of Christ) is certainly not of Jewish/Israelitic origin. The picture of a fish stands for the Greek word "fish," namely IChThYS. In turn, this word is an acronym:

I = Iesous (= Jesus)

CH = christos (= christ, messiah)

TH = theou (= of god)

Y = yios (= son)

S = soter (= savior)

So, if there is a house with the symbolic fish (as well as Greek inscriptions), the mosaic must have been made AFTER some Greeks were converted -- which means after the death of Jesus, when after some apostles recruited Gentiles into Judaism.

The only historical Jesus that may have existed is a Jesus who is consonant with Judaism, namely what above I called the "Apostolic Jesus": an apocalyptic Essene who preached on the footsteps of his cousin, John the baptist, who.... being a relative in the bloodline to King David, was decapitated. Jesus was persecuted in infancy and eventually crucified as a king; a threat to the Herods and to Caiaphas; a messiah to the Israelites, etc. Such a person is likely to have existed. Well, he may have been invented by the "apostles", but whether real or fictious, this Jesus is of Israelitic extraction.

The Jesus of the Catholic/Orthodox Church is based mainly on the inventions of Paul and John; however the preachings of the Christian Jesus are extractions from the apocalyptic Galilean. The Christian Jesus is ALL the Jesuses I have listed -- rolled into one.