Tim Holt

Wow. I thought "left of Spong" was like "North of the North Pole".

Is that anything to do with him being the former Archbishop?

Malachi151

These guys are even worse actually, because they do know better yet they don't bring up issues that they know contradict articles of faith.

They don't come in and say, "Well, let me tell you about the latest scholarly opinions. Due to careful study we now conclude that there was no virgin birth, the early church fathers totally misunderstood the pedigree of the Gospels, and all of us theologians doubt the miracles of Jesus, and even most of what it is claimed that he said in the Gospels."

That would be honest, and that is what they know themselves, but they don't say it. They are the worst hypocrites of all....

Clivedurdle

http://www.monachos.net/forum/archiv...hp?t-2311.html

Malachi151

Sounds about right....

Zeichman

Have you READ anything by the Jesus Seminar? That's EXACTLY what they do, and have been demonized for by some conservatives. I'd suggest flipping through The Acts of Jesus or reading the introduction to The Five Gospels. It will be abundantly clear that this is exactly what they do.

Solitary Man

Oh no Zeichman! Don't actually make Malachi read the stuff. Then he wouldn't be able to get on his high horse and make untrue statements about the scholars he knows nothing about!

LAMII

The Fellows of the Westar Institute include scholars with advanced degrees in biblical studies, religion or related fields and, by special invitation only, published authors who are recognized authorities in the field of religion. Since the beginning, more than two hundred Fellows have participated in the Jesus Seminar and other Westar projects, including the Paul Seminar, Canon Seminar and the recently begun Acts Seminar. At various stages of the projects, different Fellows have been involved in the research and deliberations. http://westarinstitute.org/Fellows/fellows.html

DrJim

The New Revised Standard Version has an extra passage at the end of 1 Samuel 10 that is included because it was discovered in one of the Qumran scrolls of Samuel and many scholars argued that it was errantly omitted by one scribe and his work formed the basis of all other copies that were known about until the Qumran discoveries.

I think there may be other good examples of translations relying on the work of text-critics.

Lugubert

Not very probable. Many like him, even if many don't. He leaves just 18 months before retirement age, for "personal reasons". That isn't very uncommon. To the facts on what he thinks and what he has been working for on Wiki, like that among many other things, he has been fighting for amnesty for refugees in Sweden, debt relief for poor countries, humane treatment of prisoners and tolerance towards followers of other religions than Christianity, I'd like to add that he was the last archbishop to be appointed by the Government. Now, there's a total separation between Church and State.