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Mr. Neutron · 11-17-2003, 02:48 AM

Hmm, does Amos have a brother?

Light · 11-17-2003, 03:02 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Neutron
Hmm, does Amos have a brother?

Which one is better at organising things properly?

I'll take him.

Light · 11-17-2003, 03:03 AM

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Hmm, does Amos have a brother?

"Californication"

Is that supposed to be amusing?

It does NOT amuse me.

Mr. Neutron · 11-17-2003, 03:07 AM

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"Californication"

Is that supposed to be amusing?

Not as amusing as your incoherent blathering.

mongrel · 11-17-2003, 03:08 AM

Nice analogy(kind of), but now, let's have a closer look(and continue the analogy).

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Of course good behaviour on board ship is essential. After all we wouldn't want to let The Skipper down, would we?

This is a two-way street.

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o essential there should be good behaviour, no smoking and no pornography, and the last thing The Skipper needs is a mutiny, otherwise we might all go down with the ship.

Ummm... you don't know much about being at sea, do you?

No smoking? While that would be preferred in most compartments, no captain in his/her right mind would ban smoking outright, even it's only allowed on the upper-decks.

No pornography? Heh, you really know nothing of being at sea...

If a captain really wants to avoid a mutiny(or sailors "going jumpers") and maintain a high level of efficiency, he/she should be willing to allow his/her ship's company a bit of leeway. Yes, discipline is essential, but overdone(even slightly), it can be any captain's worst nightmare. The ship's company will respond accordingly to a generous captain, by behaving well, within accepted standards and working hard toward the common goal(if it is reasonable).

Why would any crew work for a captain who does absolutely nothing in return, and demands a level of performance(perfection) beyond all reasonable expectation. Simple answer- they wouldn't.

mongrel, the ex-Jack Tar.

Light · 11-17-2003, 03:22 AM

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Not as amusing as your incoherent blathering.

Or your uncomprehending lack of understanding.

Forget about the agents of man and think instead of God.

Matthew: 23:27

Light · 11-17-2003, 03:32 AM

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Originally posted by mongrel
Nice analogy (kind of), but now, let's have a closer look (and continue the analogy).

This is a two-way street. Called mutual respect.

Ummm... you don't know much about being at sea, do you?

I was in the Navy for twelve years as an Engineer Officer. I have a Yacht Masters certificate.

No smoking? While that would be preferred in most compartments, no Captain in his/her right mind would ban smoking outright, even it's only allowed on the upper-decks.

Ships carrying fuel oils, explosives, gas, or other explosive cargo have a total ban on all smokers items. In civilian life tobacco is very damaging to health and puts an unacceptable burden on the State and its Health Services, outweighing ALL returns from revenue.

No pornography? Heh, you really know nothing of being at sea ... But I see that you do.

And you, evidently, know nothing of Puritan morality.

If a Captain really wants to avoid a mutiny (or sailors "going jumpers") and maintain a high level of efficiency, he/she should be willing to allow his/her ship's company a bit of leeway.

Yes, discipline is essential, but overdone (even slightly), it can be any Captain's worst nightmare.

I have never known this to be the case in any Military Organisation.

The ship's company will respond accordingly to a generous Captain, by behaving well, within accepted standards and working hard toward the common goal (if it is reasonable).

Why would any crew work for a Captain who does absolutely nothing in return, and demands a level of performance(perfection) beyond all reasonable expectation. Simple answer- they wouldn't.

Because it is their duty to do so. You wouldn't expect God to do it all for you would you? In that case He would simply have no need of you, if He could run the entire ship by Himself.

mongrel, the ex-Jack Tar.

So you were never the Captain or Commanding/Executive Officer, I take it?

The Naked Mage · 11-17-2003, 03:32 AM

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Or your uncomprehending lack of understanding.

Forget about the agents of man and think instead of God.

Matthew: 23:27

We readily admit we do not understand incoherent blathering, Light.

Also, no one gives a shit about your "Puritan morals". Seriously. I doubt even the Puritans themselves would have done anything less than throw you in the Boo Box with the suspected witches and the women who talked to themselves.

(As an aside, I think Light is beyond the demense of Amos and closer to the Time Cube guy.)

Mr. Neutron · 11-17-2003, 03:35 AM

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Or your uncomprehending lack of understanding.

At least I comprehend enough about grammar to realize the above sentence is redundant.

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Forget about the agents of man and think instead of God.

This is a contradiction, as your god is an agent of man.

Light · 11-17-2003, 03:37 AM

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We readily admit we do not understand incoherent blathering, Light.

As an aside, Light is beyond the demense of Amos and closer to the Time Cube guy.

The Time Cube guy is nowhere as good as religious stupidity which has managed to produce 6�0 billion days at the same time for 6�0 billion people.

The real question facing us all is, is this sustainable and for how long?

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