Matt the Medic

I'm an at-stabber. If we weren't indoctrinated to think that being stabbed is wrong, the crime of stabbing someone else wouldn't exist.

Right?

Matt

Angrillori

Does this apply somehow?

Nods to the TV show, Arrested Development.

For those unfamiliar: On the series Arrested Development, one character wanted to combine the skills of an Analyst, with a Therapist. So he decided he was an Analrapist.

RAFH

Another drive-by. Whoopee.

I suggest if xeno really believes its such a minor issue, xeno volunteer to be a willing subject for all these poor unfortunate rapists so they can realize their fantasies but not bother the rest of us.

In other words, xeno, put your mouth or ass or whatever orifice is available where your words are.

apeman

i think xeno is demonstrating that you can not apply logic to ethics.

adren@line

but isn't that what a true atheist would do?

Matt the Medic

As far as I know, 'atheist' is a simple position of not believing in any gods. It doesn't suggest anything about how one should determine ethical positions.

:huh:

Matt

MadPhatCat

Well lookie here. Xeno thinks deterrence is the only reason for punishment. How CUTE. Maybe he'll wisen up and realize reasons for punishment also include incapacitation, retribution, rehabilitation, restoration, among others.

Sorry Xeno, if you can't even get your fucking definitions right, why should I even bother with the bullshit you post afterwards?

tensorproduct

All that a 'true atheist' would do is form a system of ethics without a reference to any god or gods. No reason to assume that they would be logical.

Yahzi

No, what you need to do is beat Xeno with a baseball bat until he decides to behave. Unfortunately that's illegal, so we'll have to settle for putting him on /ignore.

There is no argument to rip apart. There is a flawed and therefore useless analogy. Rape has psychological effects independent of cultural conditioning. Ergo, Xeno's analogy is vapid.

Yahzi

No.

Metaphysical naturalists think that ethics are a product of evolution. That seems an adequate source for explaining why we are so concerned other activities that yield no tangible benefit to ourselves (like sex).

Sex costs calories, runs the risk of disease and pregnancy, and all you get in return is a good feeling. Well, I don't know about you, but behaving ethically gives me a good feeling.