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Old 02-08-2004, 04:15 PM   #11
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I saw the details of this 6 month long study on a netscape new article a little while ago so I decided to write up a critique. Upon finishing I saw there was already a thread on it here so I'll post this in here:

http://www.after-hourz.net/ri/redseaproblems.html

Not exactly rocket science in my response. Just simple logistics and common sense.

And I pointed out the absurdity of the 600,000 figure. The population is at a minimum, 2 million people, not counting the "droves of livestock".

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How long do you think it would take one person to walk four miles?
The average speed for walking is generally 20 minutes per mile so your estimate of a little more than an hour seems good to me.

However, isn't there textual/translation evidence that it is actually the Reed Sea rather than the Red Sea that is identified in the text?
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The east boutnd span of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge is closed off for most of the day and people walk the 4.3 mile span of the bridge. In less then twelve hours, around 50,000 people make the trek each year, being pressed into a very narrow to lane bridge. If that many people can make the trek in 12 hours in that narrow a column, then it would take a column twelve times that width (24 road lanes) for 600,000 to make the same trek in the same time.
My calculations assumed 2 million people and that there were in each row, 1,000 people. Is that reasonable to you? Given 4 feet per person in width next to one another tallies up to 4000 feet in width. My calculatiosn then assumed almost mile wide long rows. Plus there are 1,999 people behind the firsy person of each row.

Further, as I pointed out the jurny is not 4.5 miles. Its at least 6 and 1/2 cause the line of people must be at least 2 miles long.

The people at the end of the line have to walk two miles just to get to the red sea then another 4 and 1/2 across it. The people at the front have to walk 4 and 1/2 miles then another 2 miles to make room for all the other people followign them. Everyone did 6 and 1/2 miles. Plus the mud, the animals, the 70 mph wind, the food, posessions and so on.

There is nothing reasonable about the four hour timeframe here.

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The average speed for walking is generally 20 minutes per mile so your estimate of a little more than an hour seems good to me.
Not for 2 million peope with animals falling out of their ears, tons of chilldren, elderly, all their possessions, lots of food, the muddy terrain, strong winds, 6.5 miles (not 4.5) and who knows what else.

How long would it take to herd say 250,000 animals through 6.5 miles in 70 mph winds where 4.5 of it is pretty muddy?

I wonder if one could even get the the livestock there alone in 4 hours without all those people?

Add the livestock and all the possessions and the line of people grows wider and longer. And it would be difficult carrying food and stuff through mud with such high wind speeds. Real difficult.

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I agree that there is much more to the problem than average walking speed but I was specifically responding to his reference to how long it would take one person to walk the four miles.
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Also, they are walking on a figgin reef! reefs are notorious for being roughy, slippery, and filled with pointy things. You could not drive a herd of kine accross a reef if you had all the time in the world. Also what is this about the "Documented" location of the crossing that dude mentions? what "document?" and how about his statement "the reef was closer to the surface of the water and more continuous than it is now? Reefs get BIGGER with time, not smaller, as they are made of dead critters. Plus, what evidence does he have for these assertions? Is he a mathemetician or a marine geologist? It took him six months to come up with this rot?
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