Angrillori

But hey, according to Bush and the neocons, a country run according to god's will, a country incorporating religion into it's penal code, is a good thing....

Those fuck-tards.

Those absolute fuck-tards.

In the Philosophy forum there's a thread about how awful it is some atheists are intolerant of religion. Well here you go. Religion in all it's glory.

Of course I'm intolerant of religion. It just killed a 16 year old girl. Nice job religion. Fuck-tards.

John the Non-Baptist

"These be seven curses on a judge so cruel...That seven deaths shall never kill him."

River

How is this Religion?

It has nothing to do with religious edicts....

It is an isolated case where a ego-centric judge was exploiting his authority to get back at those with a "sharp -tongue".....


--River

jbernier

Hmmm. I am a pacifist who opposes the death penalty on religious grounds. I am proud to live in a country in which the state does not execute its own citizens. Am I implicated in this accusation that "religion" (and by extension the religious) killed this girl?

JohNeo

It has everything to do with religious edicts. She was on trial in the first place for breaking Islamic law.

JohNeo

River

Not true.

It is some local Iranian law....possibly ..if anything.....


--River

River

Please cite specifically which Islamic law that she transgressed.......If you do not know...then please refrain from judging....


---River

JohNeo

She was on trial for breaking chastity. Maybe this is just some local Iranian law, not Islamic Law. I'd really like to know. But read this again:

The execution was approved by the the Islamic Government. If it is a theocracy, which Iran is, Islam must be held accountable for all official actions of the government. Sorry, Islam is not off the hook for this one in my book.

JohNeo

River

No it ( religion) did NOT.

It was the Iranian govt....(perhaps)....unless the story itself is of dubious origins....


--River

jbernier

Whether it was about a local religious tradition or a local legal tradition is irrelevant to Angrillori's blanket lumping of all religion together as the perpetrators of this crime. This story is a disgusting example of the abuse of authority; no question about that. However to talk about "religion" as an entity (an "it") is really to anthropomorphize "religion." It is almost to deify religion, albeit as an evil deity. It is to turn "religion" into a social actor abstracted from the real world actions of real world people. I think that it is much better to look at the nitty gritty of the power structures in Iran that would allow this to occur: These would include political issues, legal issues, religious issues. Only in that way can we really begin to understand the conditions which made this situation possible.