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Sheshbazzar · 10-12-2011, 04:26 PM

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the issue of if Jesus could walk through a rock did not occur to the author of Mark 16:4

Or maybe the tomb rock just had to much Kryptonite

J-D · 10-12-2011, 04:34 PM

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The Jesus story in Sinaiticus gMark, even if assumed to be history, ENDED in ABANDONMENT, DENIALS, and REJECTION at MARK 16.8

Please DIRECTLY demonstrate what happened AFTER that point.

I haven't expressed a view about what happened after that point; you have; so, YOU please directly demonstrate what happened.

Sinaiticus gMark ENDS at Mark 16.8 where about 3 days earlier the disciples ABANDONED Jesus when he was arrested, Peter DENIED three times that he knew Jesus and he was REJECTED as the Messiah and Son of the Blessed and was later crucified.

And in addition, at the very last verse of Sinaiticus gMark, the visitors FLED DUMBSTRUCK from the EMPTY tomb.

gMark is the Perfect HJ argument killer.

Sinaiticus Jesus was a DISASTER, BAD NEWS at the END.

A story which ends at a given point does not directly demonstrate what happened after that point.

aa5874 · 10-12-2011, 05:38 PM

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The Jesus story in Sinaiticus gMark, even if assumed to be history, ENDED in ABANDONMENT, DENIALS, and REJECTION at MARK 16.8

Please DIRECTLY demonstrate what happened AFTER that point.

I haven't expressed a view about what happened after that point; you have; so, YOU please directly demonstrate what happened.

Sinaiticus gMark ENDS at Mark 16.8 where about 3 days earlier the disciples ABANDONED Jesus when he was arrested, Peter DENIED three times that he knew Jesus and he was REJECTED as the Messiah and Son of the Blessed and was later crucified.

And in addition, at the very last verse of Sinaiticus gMark, the visitors FLED DUMBSTRUCK from the EMPTY tomb.

gMark is the Perfect HJ argument killer.

Sinaiticus Jesus was a DISASTER, BAD NEWS at the END.

A story which ends at a given point does not directly demonstrate what happened after that point.

Why have you ASSUMED that something happened AFTER the END of the story.

The Sinaiticus Jesus story ENDS in Disaster AFTER Abandonment, Denial, and Rejection. And in addition, the visitors to the Empty Tomb FLED DUMBSTRUCK.

After that point, I DON'T deal with SPECULATION and IMAGINATION.

If You want to know what happened AFTER that point Just READ the Extant CODICES with Mark 16.9-20.

Mark 16:9-19 -

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9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene.......... After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country........Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart....... then, after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God......

What happened AFTER the POINT where the Codex Sinaiticus ENDED at Mark 16.8?

Something could have happened AFTER that POINT?

Sinaiticus gMark does NOT DIRECTLY demonstrate what happened.

How could the author DIRECTLY DEMONSTRATE that his writing would be INTERPOLATED?

gMark is the PERFECT HJ argument killer even AFTER the POINT where Sinaiticus gMark ENDS in Disaster, Abandonment, Denial and Rejection.

J-D · 10-12-2011, 07:03 PM

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The Jesus story in Sinaiticus gMark, even if assumed to be history, ENDED in ABANDONMENT, DENIALS, and REJECTION at MARK 16.8

Please DIRECTLY demonstrate what happened AFTER that point.

I haven't expressed a view about what happened after that point; you have; so, YOU please directly demonstrate what happened.

Sinaiticus gMark ENDS at Mark 16.8 where about 3 days earlier the disciples ABANDONED Jesus when he was arrested, Peter DENIED three times that he knew Jesus and he was REJECTED as the Messiah and Son of the Blessed and was later crucified.

And in addition, at the very last verse of Sinaiticus gMark, the visitors FLED DUMBSTRUCK from the EMPTY tomb.

gMark is the Perfect HJ argument killer.

Sinaiticus Jesus was a DISASTER, BAD NEWS at the END.

A story which ends at a given point does not directly demonstrate what happened after that point.

Why have you ASSUMED that something happened AFTER the END of the story.

I haven't.

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The Sinaiticus Jesus story ENDS in Disaster AFTER Abandonment, Denial, and Rejection. And in addition, the visitors to the Empty Tomb FLED DUMBSTRUCK.

Yes, that's how that story ends, but that's not how history ended.

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After that point, I DON'T deal with SPECULATION and IMAGINATION.

If You want to know what happened AFTER that point Just READ the Extant CODICES with Mark 16.9-20.

Mark 16:9-19 -

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9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene.......... After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country........Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart....... then, after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God......

What happened AFTER the POINT where the Codex Sinaiticus ENDED at Mark 16.8?

Something could have happened AFTER that POINT?

Sinaiticus gMark does NOT DIRECTLY demonstrate what happened.

How could the author DIRECTLY DEMONSTRATE that his writing would be INTERPOLATED?

gMark is the PERFECT HJ argument killer even AFTER the POINT where Sinaiticus gMark ENDS in Disaster, Abandonment, Denial and Rejection.

If you're talking about a story, then by definition nothing happens in a story after the end of that story, but if you're talking about history, then what happened in a story cannot directly demonstrate anything about what happened in history.

aa5874 · 10-12-2011, 07:23 PM

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Yes, that's how that story ends, but that's not how history ended....

Please, Tell me how history ended.

J-D · 10-12-2011, 07:59 PM

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Yes, that's how that story ends, but that's not how history ended....

Please, Tell me how history ended.

History hasn't ended. That was my point.

MCalavera · 10-12-2011, 08:03 PM

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Please, Tell me how history ended.

History hasn't ended. That was my point.

But you're not supposed to say that.

You're supposed to say something he could counter in a way. :angry:

aa5874 · 10-12-2011, 09:00 PM

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Yes, that's how that story ends, but that's not how history ended....

Please, Tell me how history ended.

History hasn't ended. That was my point.

So you really did not know what you were talking about.

I TOLD you that Sinaiticus gMark ended at Mark 16.8 in Abandonment, Denial and Rejection.

I told you that Mark 16.9-20 was about the resurrected Myth Jesus.

That is what I know from the stories.

Your history has NOT ended so you can't tell me anything.

Your history might end up like Mark 16.8. or 16.9-20.

In any event, gMark is the PERFECT HJ argument killer.

aa5874 · 10-12-2011, 09:03 PM

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Please, Tell me how history ended.

History hasn't ended. That was my point.

But you're not supposed to say that.

You're supposed to say something he could counter in a way. :angry:

Perhaps gMark has ended his history.

gMark is the PERFECT HJ argument killer.

J-D · 10-12-2011, 09:10 PM

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Yes, that's how that story ends, but that's not how history ended....

Please, Tell me how history ended.

History hasn't ended. That was my point.

So you really did not know what you were talking about.

So you really don't know what you're talking about.

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I TOLD you that Sinaiticus gMark ended at Mark 16.8 in Abandonment, Denial and Rejection.

And I told you that a story which ends at a given point does not directly demonstrate anything about what happened after that point.

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I told you that Mark 16.9-20 was about the resurrected Myth Jesus.

That is what I know from the stories.

I know what's in the stories. If you're talking about a story, then by definition nothing happens in a story after the end of that story, but if you're talking about history, then what happened in a story cannot directly demonstrate anything about what happened in history.

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Your history has NOT ended so you can't tell me anything.

I can tell you that my history has not ended and that history itself has not ended; I can't be absolutely sure about your history, because it might possibly have ended since you last posted, but if you post again I'll know it hasn't.

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Your history might end up like Mark 16.8. or 16.9-20.

My history will end when I die. I don't expect that to be like any part of the Gospel.

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In any event, gMark is the PERFECT HJ argument killer.

I don't see it working out that way for you so far.

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