stephan huller

Nonsense. Please provide an example in Latin of the -ianus suffix being used in conjunction with something other than a name.

stephan huller

Second nonsense. A man pissing next to a bush is 'anointing' the bush. It is common Greek. The same rules apply in Hebrew and Aramaic.

There is no Hebrew or Aramaic word “Messiah”. This is an ARTIFICIAL word only existing in late modern English. There is the Hebrew word משיח Mashiach (approximate pronunciation) and the Aramaic Meshiach (approximate pronunciation) and definite Meshicha (approximate pronunciation) and the Greek phonetic transcription Messias (where the 's' is a Greek suffix). There is no difference between the Greek and the Hebrew terms.

The problem is that it is not a name. That's why the term christianos is odd.

stephan huller

Grass is “christos” when the sprinkler is turned on. If it means someone special, then it means any king of any country at any time.

stephan huller

Kippenberg here clearly supports my contention that the name was probably given by the Romans to the tradition as an official designation.

http://books.google.com/books?id=H_A...0latin&f=false

stephan huller

Here is support from my contention that -ianus was only conjoined to personal names in Latin:

http://books.google.com/books?id=s5I...0latin&f=false

stephan huller

All knowledgeable commentators have acknowledged that the term Christianos is a Greek misapplication of a Roman suffix because Christ is not the name of the individual who headed the organization.

Diogenes the Cynic

Dirt common name.

Diogenes the Cynic

I have to disagree. Functionally, I'd argue that it was as good a name as Augustus ever was, and that's not a necessary criterion to merit the suffix anyway, as you showed yourself.

Diogenes the Cynic

Augustus was not a personal name either, yet Augustiani is well attested.

stephan huller

There was a guy named Augustus, "the Christ" was never part of Jesus's name - unless you live in the Bible belt.

I don't understand your consistent objections here. It's a stubbornness which is downright silly. You're wrong about this. You should just admit it. I expect this from other participants but not you. Do a Google search on the subject. It is commonly acknowledged that there is something unusual about fixing the Latin suffix -ianus on the Greek title 'the Christ.' Emperors changed their names to include titles. Augustiani is not an objection. The cult of the divine Emperor were so named. The priests who looked after Marcus Aurelius cult were called the Marciani sodales. Emperor's changed their official name. Antoninus was adopted. It doesn't matter. 'the Christ' should have become christiani or christianus.

It also worth noting that in Aramaic there is evidence of the Jessaeans according to Epiphanius. No idea what the original Aramaic form was.