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mountainman · 03-17-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

Then she should not have listed P.J. Casey's book at all! No matter how you turn it, it is a fucking misleading way of quoting.

Hello is that you G'Don?

Well, I had to ask.

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Zwaarddijk · 03-17-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

Then she should not have listed P.J. Casey's book at all! No matter how you turn it, it is a fucking misleading way of quoting.

Hello is that you G'Don?

Well, I had to ask.

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I genuinely don't mind being mistaken for him, and it saddens me that he withdrew from debunking Acharya. I have interacted with him a couple of times since I started this project, and he seems to have given up hope that Acharya's fans will ever be reached by reason.

mountainman · 03-17-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Wonder if they'll ever get the balls to put old 'St Peter' on public display.

Good question Shesh. They may privately sit on it.

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But ya know in a sense it is quite true, without old 'St Pete's assistance none of us would be here.

What about the "Holy Spirit"?

That's about all the HJ has left.

This is still taught in church seminaries.

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mountainman · 03-17-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

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Originally Posted by mountainman

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

Then she should not have listed P.J. Casey's book at all! No matter how you turn it, it is a fucking misleading way of quoting.

Hello is that you G'Don?

Well, I had to ask.

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I genuinely don't mind being mistaken for him, and it saddens me that he withdrew from debunking Acharya. I have interacted with him a couple of times since I started this project, and he seems to have given up hope that Acharya's fans will ever be reached by reason.

Well drivebys are a fact of life, and you may be doing some people a service by doing a driveby on Acharya. But I would still like to know what your motivation is, and to do that it is generally helpful to understand what your position is upon the EVIDENCE of the HJ/MJ controversy - the same evidence that both Acharya and Erhman use for their sources.

Do you have a link to your own opinions?

Best wishes.

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Sheshbazzar · 03-17-2013, 02:57 PM

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Wonder if they'll ever get the balls to put old 'St Peter' on public display.

Good question Shesh. They may privately sit on it.

I wouldn't be surprised.

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But ya know in a sense it is quite true, without old 'St Pete's assistance none of us would be here.

What about the "Holy Spirit"?

That's about all the HJ has left.

This is still taught in church seminaries.

Well although the HS allegedly did the 'overshadowing' job on the Virgin Mary, I kind of doubt that it could be depended upon to likewise procreate the rest of us.
Myself, I got a lot more confidence in the physical presence and working of good 'ol St Peter. :Cheeky:

mountainman · 03-17-2013, 03:24 PM

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Well although the HS allegedly did the 'overshadowing' job on the Virgin Mary, I kind of doubt that it could be depended upon to likewise procreate the rest of us.

I thought we are all overshadowed by the (very busy) HS?

Or was this just a once-off contract?

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Myself, I got a lot more confidence in the physical presence and working of good 'ol St Peter. :Cheeky:

Lenny Bruce put it like this:

If something about the human body disgusts you complain to the manufacturer.

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Sabine Grant · 03-17-2013, 03:29 PM

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=323547

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Robert Tulip · 03-17-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

The final extra quotation-mark I accidentally included was a result of bad editing of a post

Yes, and together with your failure to even check the online source that I gave, as referenced by Acharya, it undermines your entire argument, which you should apologise for and retract.

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...a fucking misleading way of quoting.

Hello is that you G'Don?
Well, I had to ask.

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Watch out Pete, or Z will say fuck to you again to cover the fact that he is hoist by his own petard.

Leaping boldly into print without having checked the accuracy of such vapid slander, especially when the whole point of the slander is to insist on pedantic rules even though the meaning is obvious, is not the ideal method to earn respect. And apologising for mistakes is also good form.

mountainman · 03-19-2013, 12:17 AM

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... Z ...

I will repeat the point I made that Acharya has produced some good research into specific areas of evidence, and that the diligent investigator must be prepared to remain unbiased, while slowly and methodically working through the evidence itself.

Christ Myth Theory

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The Christ myth theory (also known as Jesus myth theory or Jesus mythicism) is a range of arguments that question the existence of Jesus of Nazareth or the entirety of his life story as described in the Christian gospels.[1][2][3][4]

The most sweeping version of the myth theories contends that there was no real historical figure Jesus and that he was invented by early Christians.

Another variant holds that there was a person called Jesus, but almost all teachings and miracles attributed to him were either invented or symbolic references.

Yet another version suggests that the Jesus portrayed in the New Testament is a composite character constructed from multiple people over a period of time.[2][3][4]

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Among the variants of the Jesus myth theory, the hypothesis that a historical Jesus figure never existed is supported only by a very small minority of modern scholars.[11][12][13]

Bart Ehrman has stated that now virtually all scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed,[14] ....

Until recently by which Christian institutions were virtually all scholars of antiquity educated?

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hjalti · 03-19-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Zwaarddijk

In Acharya's book, it's apparent she barely knows what allegory is - she even thinks referring to feminine nouns by feminine pronouns in the Hebrew Bible is allegory, even when it's grammatically called for. She simply put is too ignorant about these things to be a credible source.

Does she only speak English?

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