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douglas · 12-05-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CanoeMan

I can't remember the exact place, but isn't there a part where Moses (I think it's Moses) wrestles with God and Moses wife cuts of their sons foreskin and blesses the kid with it, which makes God give up and go home? Completely out of the blue.

Check out this thread started by one of our more intelligent and articulate members...

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=183965

greyline · 12-05-2006, 03:56 PM

As I child at Sunday School, the story that puzzled me the most was Abraham being asked to sacrifice his son. As a uni student, when I was having a generalized WTF moment regarding my conversion, I was advised to read Job - creating another WTF moment because I failed to see how it was meant to be encouraging.

And as an adult trying to point out the rape-and-baby-killing episodes in the OT, my WTF moment came from my sister, who assured me this was an example of God acting morally. The babies were better off having their heads bashed in because otherwise they'd have starved to death.

Boro Nut · 12-05-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamera

The paradox is supposed to induce the listener to contemplate the meaning of the law in a deeper manner than was being taught at the time.

And that's what you get when a carpenter presumes to practice law. Gibberish.

He's also a salutary lesson to any other deluded miscreants considering defending themselves against capital charges before a hanging judge.

Boro Nut

Boro Nut · 12-05-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisdumb

Its one thing to say you dont agree with many of the things said in the Bible, but to say there is nothing of any value at all is well.....a lie...

I agree. There's definitely mention of at least thirty pieces of silver in there somewhere. That's got to be worth at least twenty pieces of silver.

Boro Nut

dirtymatt · 12-06-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by moonwatcher

Not that its germane to the discussion, but there's actually no such thing as an XXX rating. Only X-rated. Triple X is just a marketing ploy (hey, check this out; its super-raunchy).

Holy off topic batman! The only "official" MPAA ratings are G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17. There used to be an X rating, but a number of film makers lobbied the MPAA to include another rating to indicate "adults only, but not because of pornographic content." The MPAA basically changed X to NC-17, which carried the same stigma of pornography that X had. I don't believe any pornographic movies are submitted to the MPAA for rating anymore as they would all certainly come back NC-17.

MPAA - Film Ratings

An honest adaptation of the bible should get an NC-17 rating by the MPAA's guidelines. This ignores their Christian bias which is even more off topic.

greyline · 12-06-2006, 10:06 AM

The above ratings are for the US, I presume. In Australia there is the X rating, and various others that differ from the US, and a different set again for TV.

I just remembered that my biggest WTF bible moment wasn't from reading the bible, it was finding out that Jesus never claims to be God in the bible.

dirtymatt · 12-06-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by greyline

The above ratings are for the US, I presume. In Australia there is the X rating, and various others that differ from the US, and a different set again for TV.

Good point. We (the US) also have a different set for TV, and then a third set for video games.

Back on topic. I always liked the thought of the sun standing still for a day. I can only imagine what people on the other side of the planet thought when the sun just didn't rise one day. I wonder what would actually happen if the planet just stopped spinning suddenly, ignoring the unsane amount of force that would be required to stop it.

greyline · 12-06-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtymatt

I wonder what would actually happen if the planet just stopped spinning suddenly, ignoring the unsane amount of force that would be required to stop it.

Not to mention the obvious point that it would require much *less* force for God to just smite Joshua's enemies on the spot.

furcifer · 05-24-2007, 10:41 AM

The story of Jephthah.

In order to ensure that Israel won a battle Jephthah swore that he would sacrifice upon returning home the first thing that came out of his house (WTF was he expecting to come out of his house?). They won the battle and upon returning home his daughter came out to greet him. After giving her some time to go out and "bewail her virginity" he sacrificed her. What a mighty God we serve!

RED DAVE · 05-24-2007, 08:53 PM

Finding out when I was about nine or ten that there was another Bible. (The NT)

RED DAVE

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12-05-2006, 03:56 PM	#72
greyline Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Doing Yahzi's laundry Posts: 792	As I child at Sunday School, the story that puzzled me the most was Abraham being asked to sacrifice his son. As a uni student, when I was having a generalized WTF moment regarding my conversion, I was advised to read Job - creating another WTF moment because I failed to see how it was meant to be encouraging. And as an adult trying to point out the rape-and-baby-killing episodes in the OT, my WTF moment came from my sister, who assured me this was an example of God acting morally. The babies were better off having their heads bashed in because otherwise they'd have starved to death.

12-06-2006, 10:06 AM	#76
greyline Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Doing Yahzi's laundry Posts: 792	The above ratings are for the US, I presume. In Australia there is the X rating, and various others that differ from the US, and a different set again for TV. I just remembered that my biggest WTF bible moment wasn't from reading the bible, it was finding out that Jesus never claims to be God in the bible.

05-24-2007, 10:41 AM	#79
furcifer Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 10	The story of Jephthah. In order to ensure that Israel won a battle Jephthah swore that he would sacrifice upon returning home the first thing that came out of his house (WTF was he expecting to come out of his house?). They won the battle and upon returning home his daughter came out to greet him. After giving her some time to go out and "bewail her virginity" he sacrificed her. What a mighty God we serve!

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RED DAVE Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 10,532	Finding out when I was about nine or ten that there was another Bible. (The NT) RED DAVE

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