IamJoseph

His impact is enormous. David established Jerusalem, the most cherished and battled for real estate in the universe, prevailed over the Philistines - which no other nation could, and wrote the Psalms - also one of the most cherished writings.

Clivedurdle

He never went there!

Which shows it was not an important place!

Which raises interesting questions - it ain't necessarily so!:devil1:

Clivedurdle

No other nation? What were the Punic Wars about? Hanibal? Carthage, which the Romans covered in salt to stop things growing there.

It is fascinating how we take these fantasies as reality.

It would be very amusing if the first Jerusalem temple can be proven to have been built to Baal, and I would ask questions about which god Herod thought he was building his temple to. He was a king in the Roman Empire.....

Clivedurdle

And did Hadrian think he was restoring the rightful god?

IamJoseph

I refer to another period and region: 3000 years ago, in the Middle-east. The Philistines introduced iron and iron armoury in the M/E, and no nation could prevail over them - not even ancient Egypt.

You will find numerous entries in the Hebrew which forbids Baal worship, and there were no images or statues in the Temple, as per the archives of the Greeks and Romans, who saw an invisabe God as unacceptable. The ancient Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Greeks and Romans, then Christianity - incurred all their wars with the Hebrews for this reason.

The entire war with Rome was because the Jews were the only peoples who refused to house the Emeror's statue in their temple. Have you never wondered why the pre-Islamic arabs were not exiled by Rome?! Why do you think there are so many disputes in this forum - because the European accountng of History sucks - its 90% BS. :wave:

IamJoseph

Its proven by Jerusalem not being as important as any Greek or Roman city today, right - isn't the world on edge claiming Rome and Athens be divided, internationised or whatever!? :devil1:

'I SHALL MAKE JERUSALEM AS A BURDEN UNTO THE NATIONS' :wave:

IamJoseph

Did anyone harken to Hadrian - or was he winking in the dark?

Johnny Skeptic

On the contrary, there is not any historical evidence at all that a localized flood of biblical proportions occurred in Mesopotamia, that a donkey talked, that a great fish swallowed Jonah, that God took Elijah to heaven in a fiery chariot, that God gave Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar as a compensation for his failure to defeat Tyre as Ezekiel promised, and that the Ten Plagues occurred in Egypt. Geophysicist Glenn Miller, whose scientific research I mentioned at the Evolution/Creation Forum, provides reasonable proof that a localized flood of biblical proportions could not have occurred in Mesopotamia. If the Ten Plagues occurred in Egypt, that would have been the end of Egypt as a major power in the Middle East. That did not happen. If the Ten Plagues happened, they would have been the major event not of the year, or even of the century, but of the millennia. Historians around the Middle East and beyond would have spread the stories all over the known world, and yet the Old Testament is the only historical record in the world that mentions the Ten Plagues.

What about Deism? It has no provable lies like the Old Testament does?

What about claims in the Old Testament that indicate that the earth is flat?

Johnny Skeptic

You are welcome to defend those absurdities at the General Religous Discussions Forum. Threads on prophecy are no longer allowed at this forum.

No rational person would believe that a loving God would inspire prophecies that needlessly cause doubt and confusion when he could easily inspire prophecies that are difficult to dispute. If Micah had predicted that Jesus would heal sick people, and that Pontius Pilate would become the Roman Governor of Palestine, and the Titus would destroy the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D., more people would have accepted Jesus. The same would be true if the Bible contained many accurate predictions regarding when are where some natural disasters would occur, month, day, and year.

The poor quality of Bible prophecies, and needless doubt and confusion that they cause, is one of the best reasons why people should reject Christianity. There is no known or reasonable postulated motive for a God to inspire prophecies that needlessly create doubt and confusion. If humans wrote the Bible on their own, that explains the poor quality of Bible prophecies.

arnoldo

Thanks for the invitation, you are also welcome to post at the Humour and Jokes Forum.