Koyaanisqatsi

Well blow me down with a communion wafer, Walrus, we finally agree on something.

I think your post marks the very first time I've ever seen in which you've made a coherent, intelligent comment that could actually be interpreted as taking a position.

Congrats and I concur.

brighid

I find only one commonality between the Christian Evangelist and the Islamic suicide bomber and that is they are both doing it to gain a reward from their God. The Christian Evangelist is a coward and a liar and the immorality of their actions is amplified by the belief that this is for the good of their victim. They don�t care one iota for these people. They only care about getting the �Good News� out there and if these men, women and children convert is of no consequence. They�ve done their duty and basically have condemned these people to their �Hell� and now a hell on Earth. They get men, women and children to TRUST them through carefully constructed lies and deception and then when the authorities bust their sorry asses they bail and leave these families to suffer the consequences, often times with their lives.

At least the suicide bomber isn�t a fucking coward and in the process of his/her carnage eradicates himself from the human gene pool and no longer pollutes the Earth with his presence. The suicide bomber isn�t interested in deceiving, talking to, or sharing the good news of Allah with his victims. He is interested only in becoming a martyr and gaining favors in Heaven. A suicide bomber, as heinous as he is has more honor and courage then snake in the grass, punk ass, cowardly Christian Evangelist only interested in saving his/her own skin and gaining praise and glory from man and their God. Christian Evangelist Missionaries make their fictional Satan character look like Mr. Rogers.

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
- C.S. Lewis

Brighid

WJ

Koy!

I don't mean to take the wind out of both our sail's, but the only reason you think it was "coherent" is because you 'agreed'. Nothing more or less, occurred here. In that same regard, I think Maslow was right in his book The Farther Reaches of Human Nature when he said 'what you are not you cannot percieve to understand. It cannot comunicate itself to you'.


As a sort of friendly joust, I think you would agree it's a very *qualified* concurrance. Otherwise, I don't belief you agree with anything beyond the basic jist of my comments there, or whatever else you want to read into them.

Walrus <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

nogods4me

the entire episode made me naseous. particularly the little film about "church planting" 1 becomes 2 becomes 4 becomes 8 churches. it's MLM, f&^kin AMWAY for jebus.

the other part I though they should have gotten into was how american lives were put at risk to save their lying asses when they should have never been there in the first place. young men and women could have died trying to get those bastards out of that country, someone should garnish the book royalties as payment.

Koyaanisqatsi

No, I thought it was coherent because it followed a logical train of thought and represented a clear position on your part.

Then 'nuff said...

As for this travesty, I think these women should be immediately expedited and charged for their crimes so that they can atone for their sins.

After all, it's what Jesus would have wanted.

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Cozmoe

This is true, but I think it's more than enough. These two pious girls went to Afghanistan, under the control of the Taliban, the most religiously insane regime since Judge Roy Moore became Chief Justice of Alabama, to preach Christianity. If that's not suicidal, I don't know what is.

Now their deaths were not absolutely guaranteed like a suicide bomber, but I think they went there expecting death was likely and even wanted it or preferred it so they could die as martyrs.

And just like a suicide bomber they didn't care who they took down with them.

Also I think bravery or cowardice is irrelevant. Christian fundamentalist or Muslim fundamentalist, it doesn't matter, it's their fanaticism that gives them the ability to do these things.

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cheetah

No kidding! I actually shuddered in horror at that part!!!

Vorkosigan

Not only all the above, but by going as aid workers, they made life that much more difficult for legit aid workers. They were completely unethical people.

Vorkosigan

Godless Dave

The more I think about this the more it pisses me off.

yahwehyadayada

"Render unto Ceasar" Didn't those two massively deluded girls understand that according to what their god says, they should have stayed in Afghanistan & taken their punishment? It is absolutely barfmaking that they are treated like heroes by the media. I'm surprised they weren't given a tickertape parade.