Julian

First of all, Jeffrey can hold his own, he doesn't need my protection. He has, himself, engaged in character attacks and attacks on people's credentials. He knows how I feel about his posting style here, I have told him so directly in private correspondance. I need to try and apply the rules equally, regardless of the level of knowledge of the poster. If you feel that this hasn't been done then feel free to use the 'Request Mod Action' icon. There are two posts under mod consideration right now that contain attacks on Jeffrey that will most likely be edited.

I have little respect for knowledge that is presented in such a way as to not encourage discussion but inflame. This is not directed at Jeffrey specifically but at everyone.

Exactly where did I 'pick up on' Jeffrey? I did pick on you, it's true, mostly because you came swooping in at the eleventh hour with a few disparaging, and wholly useless, remarks that served no purpose other than to piss people off. That will generally draw my fire. At least Jeffrey has stayed and engaged throughout the discussion, even if I do disagree with his methods.

Do you understand why I asked if you were going to add something useful?

I wish that people would have the insight to separate the argument from the credentials. After all, why should we pay attention to Stephen Carlson? He just a lawyer, after all... And what about Ben? He doesn't have a Ph.D. in a relevant field. There are others, as well. The fact is that they present excellent arguments, regardless of their (lack of) credentials. To attack someone's credentials looks a lot like desparation. A lot of posters here have been guilty of this.

I want to encourage Jeffrey to stay and post because he does, indeed, have a lot of good knowledge. I just wish it was presented better. The same goes for you. You could also contribute in a meaningful but lately it has mostly been like the examples in this thread. A number of infidels are also guilty of muddying the waters. I wish everybody would start posting substantive material relevant to the topics and lay of the incessant sniping, it is entirely pointless and somewhat embarrassing to all involved.

Julian

Julian

I wouldn't respond to Joe's posts the way he is wording them at the moment, it would be entirely beneath me.

Julian

JoeWallack

JW:
Similarly, could this be why Mr. Doherty is not responding to Dr. Gibson's posts?



Joseph

http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Bede

All these mod stuff would be rather more convincing if you hadn't prefixed your initial remark to me with a wholly irrelevant insult about my writings which, AFAIR, you have never addressed on these forums or anywhere else.

My initial remark was to offer public encoruagement to a poster who was being attacked on all sides. I remain of the opinion that this was useful.

Best wishes

Bede

jgibson000

Warning? What kind of moderator or administrative or judicial power do you think you have?

Yes, that's exactly what happened. How ever did you find this out?

Never met Bede before or corresponded with him. So I'm not certain how I can have a reunion of any kind with him, let alone a heartwarming one.

So far as I can see, you've never made this particular point before. So how I could have ignored it even once is beyond me.

His argument should be seen for what it is by everyone.

But fair is fair. So perhaps now you will tell me:

In your Unprofessional and Undegreed and untutored opinion, what do you think?

And what repositories of Greek lexical/grammatical and ancient historical/cultural knowledge, let alone of the ins and outs of formal and informal logic, are you drawing upon and using as you evaluate Earl's argument and come to what ever conclusion about its soundness and validity you have come to?

Jeffrey Gibson

Julian

That's certainly very possible, he has that right and he may even be justified, I simply don't have that knowledge. From off-board correspondence I get the sense that there is a long history there and, being ignorant of the particulars, I will refrain from speculation.

Julian

Julian

I insulted your writings the same way you insulted the writings of the JM people here. You can dish it out, but can you take it...?

I have addressed your writings on several occasions. At one time, I pointed out a mistake, which you privately acknowledged and said that you would change. When I checked several days later you still hadn't changed it.
And I disagree, no biggie...

Julian

Bede

If you are talking about the crusades then I wrote up the matter as soon as I got a chance: http://bedejournal.blogspot.com/2006...bers-game.html

It took about a week.

Sorry I forgot our previous discussion. I am also pleased to note that mod policy here is that an insult it an acceptable rejoinder to a perceived insult.

Best wishes

Bede

Julian

I would like to encourage everybody to read the link above and find out exactly how Bede feels about people here and also get a taste of his writing style.

Julian

Bede

And I'd like several other blog posts to be taken into consideration, m'lord.