luvluv

Been doing a bit of browsing on the forums today, and was confronted a couple of times by people claiming that they wouldn't want to go to heaven or have eternal life because it would be "boring".

My question is, what makes you think that an Omnipotent, Omniscient Being couldn't keep things interesting for eternity?

Being unlimited in Goodness, Power, Intelligence, and Imagination, couldn't God either remove the human capacity for boredom or use His infinite resources to remove all occassion for it?

Given the obvious capacity God is said to have, why does it seem plausible to any thinking person that an eternal lilfe in Heaven, if such is possible, would be boring?

show_no_mercy

Human being's free will is what creates or allows evil on earth. So obviously if heaven is devoid of any evil, it would be devoid of free will. All those in heaven are robots and slaves to god with no free will.

luvluv

That's a separate question.

braces_for_impact

So what you're basically saying is that heaven would be a supernatural version of Michael Jackson's Neverland?

I guess for me, granting that god is omnimax and all that, it still doesn't seem to solve the problem. Because time (as in eternity, which heaven is supposed to be) is just as infinite as god. So he gets to entertain every idea he and every human ever has for 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years, and the whole party is still just getting started.

Sorry, the whole concept still seems silly.

luvluv

So the engaging, fulfilling, exhilirating things that God can devise for humans to pursue can be put into one-to-one correspondance to the number of days we'll have. Where's the problem?

Fine, that's a separate question.

braces_for_impact

For myself it really isn't seperate though. Since I don't believe in a god with omnimax characteristics, and I cannot conceive of a place of absolute bliss that doesn't somehow violate free will, I cannot really picture this heaven within my own mind.

I suppose if I were to answer your question as I believe you intended to ask it, then sure it could be possible. An omnimax god would be better for entertainment over eternity than even Hollywood. Heck, being omnimax seems to solve a lot of problems. But since I don't buy into omniscience, that doesn't solve any of my own mental inconsistencies regarding the matter. But as you mentioned, that is a seperate topic.

Barefoot Bree

Oooookay-fine. If you're going to keep redefining the question to rule out the nuanced replies you are getting:

YES!!!!!!!! God could make it interesting for all eternity.

Happy?

I still wouldn't want to be there...... Oh, sorry, that's a separate question. Next?

luvluv

I'd go even further, I'd say that it would be more or less impossible to be bored in heaven. That is, unless you assume that at some point God would have some reason to allow us to be bored.

I'm always happy.

I don't think that's necessarily a separate question. There will be a lot of people who don't want to be there, but it won't be because it's boring.

I'll just say that the Hell I believe in (an "outer darkness" that is a simple separation from God and His works) would be much more boring than Heaven. Literally infinitely more boring, in fact.

Barefoot Bree

"Why I think it would be boring" is a separate question, but "why I wouldn't want to be there anyway" isn't?

Talk about your loaded questions.......

Sarpedon

Unfortunately, all the usual depictions of heaven show that it is not around for the entertainment of humans, but for the praise of God. Generally, heaven is portrayed as being just a massive church service, with hymns, praises, and crown-throwing rituals. Sounds really boring to me.