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Old 09-07-2008, 04:52 PM   #11
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You might want to check out this book since you seem to have many questions concerning the Exodus. . The Miracles of Exodus: A Scientist's Discovery of the Extraordinary Natural Causes of the Biblical Stories:Colin Humphreys
No thank you. If you wish to quote and discuss the book, you can do so. Skeptics are not under any obligation to do your homework for you.

It is not difficult to find evidence when you have already made up your mind prior to conducting research.

If a God exists, and wanted to convince as many people as possible to believe that he exists, he certainly would have been able to convince a lot more people to believe that he exists.

If a God wannted as many people as possible to believe that the Exodus occured, he certainly would have been able to convince a lot more people to believe that it occured.

Why do you suppose that a lot more Americans believe that President Bush exists than believe that the God of the Bible exists?

What about the Ten Plagues? If they occured, that would have been the end of Egypt as a major power in the Middle East. As history shows, that did not happen. If the plagues occured, travelers and traders would have spread the news for thousands of miles. The plagues would have been the major news story in the entire world at that time, or at any other time in human history. Even any single plague would have been an incredible news story.
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Even any single plague would have been an incredible news story.
Some plagues are sanctioned by the government and divide in many different branches today: We have the many different protestant denominations, Full Gospel mens clubs, Full Gospel womens clubs, AAA, Jack Chick, various TV Evangelists and I am sure you can add a whole bunch more.
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Even any single plague would have been an incredible news story.
Some plagues are sanctioned by the government and divide in many different branches today: We have the many different protestant denominations, Full Gospel mens clubs, Full Gospel womens clubs, AAA, Jack Chick, various TV Evangelists and I am sure you can add a whole bunch more.

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Good one, Chili, but you forgot the worst plague of all: American Idol! No country has escaped it's ravages. :frown:
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Actually 500,000 is really low-balling the number. I believe the Bible says it was 600,000 ADULT MEN (the women and children were, apparently, not worth counting). Thus, the conservative number is probably closer to two-and-a-half million, not to mention all the livestock who would have been killed or sacrificed over a 40-year period.
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What about the Ten Plagues? If they occured, that would have been the end of Egypt as a major power in the Middle East. As history shows, that did not happen. If the plagues occured, travelers and traders would have spread the news for thousands of miles. The plagues would have been the major news story in the entire world at that time, or at any other time in human history. Even any single plague would have been an incredible news story.
indeed. what are apologists explanation for this?
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Most Bible archaeologists know that there's no evidence for the Exodus.
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Why is it everyone remembers the Mana but not the quail? Mathematically in order to provide enough meat protein for every day for that many people the sky would of darkened with the amount of quail needed to feed that many people each day.
An average six-ounce skinless quail contains about 123 calories, 40 percent of the recommended daily allowance (RDA) of protein, 50 percent niacin, 30 percent vitamin B6, and 28 percent of iron. The same bird has only 1.2 grams of saturated fat, 1.2 grams monounsaturated fat, 1.1 grams polyunsaturated fat, and 64 grams of cholesterol.
So taking into this that quail as the meat source and manna as the bread source I think most would find this acceptable “replacement”. So a one pound quail will give approximately .50 to .75 lbs of meat source that means every day they would have killed 3 million quail and 3 million pounds of bread per day just to keep the people moving.
Now lets look at 3 million birds per day and bread form the sky. What do birds do when you scatter bread? So the Hebrews would have been competing for the manna with not only the 3 million quail they would be killing that day but the 900,0000,000 birds needed in order to maintain this consumption for just one month. Since they only breed and can lay 300 eggs per year. It takes 17-18 days of incubation or 15 days to hatch depending on temperature. In any case 900,000,000 is a lot of birds doing what birds do best, eat and poop. So allot of that bread will not be usable because of loss to birds and just plain poop contamination
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3 million walking 10 abreast with 6 ft between rows would extend for around 340 miles (3,000,000 / 10 * 6 = 1,800,000 ft. = 340 mi)
That’s 340 miles. To give a idea of distance that’s from Bunker Hill WV to 40 miles outside Columbus OH! That takes 6.5 hours to drive at 65 miles an hour. it is only 345 miles from Cairo to Jerusalem! Imagine a horde of people stretching as far as you can see that would take approximately 58 days to pass you by from beginning to end. Thats almost two months for the column to pass you by. Yet no records of this appears anywhere but the bible. it is a hoax brought about by people who lacked sophistication and knowledge of simple arithmetic and scientific knowledge.
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it is a hoax brought about by people who lacked sophistication and knowledge of simple arithmetic and scientific knowledge.
I would be careful about making such a bold claim. "Hoax" implies intended deceit. Do you have any evidence of that?
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...it is a hoax brought about by people who lacked sophistication and knowledge of simple arithmetic and scientific knowledge.
That pretty much sums up the whole book :-/
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it is a hoax brought about by people who lacked sophistication and knowledge of simple arithmetic and scientific knowledge.
I would be careful about making such a bold claim. "Hoax" implies intended deceit. Do you have any evidence of that?

All religions started as hauxes, perpetuated by the powers-that-be to control the ignorant masses.

Enterprising individuals figured out how to make money off them so now, they are mostly just scams.

If I came to your house once a week and demanded 10% of your income in return for assurance no harm would come to you, I'd be charged with extortion.
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