herev

they did.
Actually, I could have sent my sock the 100,000+, but chose instead to give them to one of the few remaining liberal leaning admins. I pray she will spread them around.

rigorist

And since they could not bear the truth, these singers, who might in some other place have been wise, were squeezed under the terrible weight of the warren's secret until they gulped out a fine folly--about dignity and acquiescence and anything else that could make believe that the rabbit loved the shining wire. But one strict rule they had; oh yes, the strictest. No one must ever ask where another rabbit was and anyone who asked 'Where?'--except in a song or a poem--must be silenced.

Richard Adams ~ Watership Down

seebs

Because some Christian groups are very brittle and defensive.

The essential failing of propositional Christianity is that, if faith is nothing more than degree of certainty in your views, the only way to not be terrified of burning forever is to be absolutely certain that you're certain. Since virtually no one is really that certain, people do things to fake it -- like whistling in the dark.

The more aware you are that your beliefs on an issue are just plain dumb, the more you have to actively suppress any and all competing views, because you expect that that's how a person who was really certain would act, and if you act certain enough, maybe the nagging doubts will go away.

It's like one of those trust exercises, where you fall back and someone catches you. Only, rather than letting go, you try to hold a glass up to your mouth as though you were upright, to prove you're not falling, and when it spills all over, you blame someone else.

See above. The people making these decisions don't trust God to be real, and they don't trust truth to be true.

seebs

The real problem is that the directors are trying to represent a constituency, not a forum. IMHO.

seebs

It absolutely did not violate a rule. You were not discussing abortion, you were discussing policy.

I am so sorry.

You have worked so hard, and so long. You deserved better.

But, on the bright side: Better will come along. Things will work out. Isn't that neat?

seebs

Rigs' observation that the forum names are pretty gnostic has stuck with me. Between the team names of "alpha" and "omega", and the fact that the secret forum is higher than Zion, and higher than the Ark...

Is crazy-making. I think the naming of those forums has probably done a lot of damage, just because people do care about symbols.

boughtwithaprice

Where is Hans Kung when you need him? I read a very good book by him recently that says it is impossible to make infallible propositions. It comes down to the question of who we believe, God or the Church? If at any time they appear to be in conflict. CF appears to be suffering from that problem at this time

seebs

I have seen no evidence of God's involvement with any aspect of the CF institution or policy in some time. Individual staff have been pouring grace out like the fountains they are, but it just gets soaked up by the system.

seebs

Okay, informal survey time:

Anyone here have reasonably functional discernment?

If so, when was the last time you remember feeling the Presence in a CF policy announcement? Ever? Last year? Five years ago? This week?

Stumpjumper

Essence without form and form without essence are equally unreal...