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Old 06-13-2004, 02:57 AM   #511
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He doesn't force people to worship Him.
Likewise, an armed bank robber doesn't force anyone to hand over money to him. He merely requests it, and people who choose not to pay him have earned the consequences, isn't that right?

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Those in Heaven want to worship Him, or they wouldn't have sought forgiveness and salvation from Him.
The innocent little unborn babies whom you claim go to heaven haven't sought forgiveness and salvation from him. So how do you know that they want to worship him?
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As for me,I feel quite comfortable discussing God/gods, heaven,hell, original sin,punishment or anything else to do with religion.
To me it doesn't seem any different to discussing Harry Potter or the Lord of the rings.
Who discusses Harry Potter as if the happenings in the book are real? (besides certain christians who want the book banned)
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Old 06-13-2004, 03:34 PM   #513
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He doesn't force people to worship Him. Those in Heaven want to worship Him, or they wouldn't have sought forgiveness and salvation from Him.
Sounds to me like you must be directly receiving divine revelation from God for you to assert this nugget of information. Or do you base this assertion on something else? If you say God told you so, personally, I think you're deluding yourself.

Whatever your delusion, here's another scenario for you to get some more divine revelation on -

What about those who are in heaven only because they sought forgiveness and salvation strictly out of fear of roasting in Hell?
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Old 06-13-2004, 04:12 PM   #514
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What about those who are in heaven only because they sought forgiveness and salvation strictly out of fear of roasting in Hell?
i'm guessing they'll be pretty pissed when they find out they'd been had and there never was any eternal pit of fire.
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Old 06-13-2004, 05:47 PM   #515
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Who discusses Harry Potter as if the happenings in the book are real?
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We know that Magus does it, in the case of the Bible.
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Old 06-13-2004, 06:39 PM   #516
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It doesn't make sense indeed:

before discussing God, first you prove that God exists so that you can talk about a reality.

So, why are you discussing God, before proving that God is a reality?
Why are you discussing God before its proven? Why do scientists discuss what happened before the big bang before current hypotheses are proven to be reality? Your argument is flawed. Proving something is real isn't required to discuss it.
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Because that is how Magus was suckered.

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Not really, but thanks for that random piece of worthlessness you posted.
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What about those who are in heaven only because they sought forgiveness and salvation strictly out of fear of roasting in Hell?
Salvation has to be sincere. You can't just speak a few words and you're magically in Heaven.


Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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We know that Magus does it, in the case of the Bible.
The Bible is a historical piece of literature. Harry Potter isn't.
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Stage One- Having an imaginary friend makes you a little nuts.

Stage Two- Talking to an imaginary friend means that you are crazy.

Stage Three- Listening to and taking orders from your imaginary friend makes you very dangerous.
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