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aa5874 · 11-08-2011, 09:40 PM

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You were not there. You don't know. But you do know, and admit that your texts lie. But if you going to use the content of those lying texts to assert that he did not, that onus is entirely upon you....

You are confused and not making much sense.

aa5874 · 11-08-2011, 09:44 PM

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this motionless forgetful where
turned at his glance to shining here;
that if(so timid air is firm)
under his eyes would stir and squirm

Mark 6:48 -

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And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.

But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out...

Sheshbazzar · 11-08-2011, 09:47 PM

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If NOTHING really happened in the NT the belief something might have happened is IRRELEVANT.

But YOU have no way of knowing what may or may not have really happened...

I can ONLY tell you the things I KNOW.

And you know the texts lie.

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I can tell you without hesitation that Jesus was described as a PHANTOM in gMark 6.48-49 and 9.2-3.

But you know and have stated the texts are fabrications and are untrustworthy.

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I can tell you WITHOUT hesitation that the sea-water walking and the Transfiguration with the resurrected Moses and Elijah did NOT happen as described.

Oh? You were there?

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I can tell you that gMark is a Myth Fable as PRESENTED.

Then why do you accept its statements and employ them as though they were true?

Sheshbazzar · 11-08-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

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You were not there. You don't know. But you do know, and admit that your texts lie. But if you going to use the content of those lying texts to assert that he did not, that onus is entirely upon you....

You are confused and not making much sense.

You wish.

J-D · 11-08-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

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Originally Posted by J-D

this motionless forgetful where
turned at his glance to shining here;
that if(so timid air is firm)
under his eyes would stir and squirm

Mark 6:48 -

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And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.

But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out...

newly as from unburied which
floats the first who,his april touch
drove sleeping selves to swarm their fates
woke dreamers to their ghostly roots

aa5874 · 11-08-2011, 10:10 PM

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If NOTHING really happened in the NT the belief something might have happened is IRRELEVANT.

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

But YOU have no way of knowing what may or may not have really happened...

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Originally Posted by aa5874

I can ONLY tell you the things I KNOW.

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

And you know the texts lie.

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Originally Posted by aa5874

I can tell you without hesitation that Jesus was described as a PHANTOM in gMark 6.48-49 and 9.2-3.

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

But you know and have stated the texts are fabrications and are untrustworthy.

How can I KNOW a text is a fabrication and untrustworthy WITHOUT FIRST SEEING the Text?

Do you want me to IMAGINE what the TEXT should have?

You seem totally confused.

The VERACITY of a TEXT can ONLY be assessed AFTER READING and ANALYSING the very TEXT.

Based on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING of SPECIFIC GRAVITY, BIOLOGY and the Human Anatomy Mark 6.48-49 and Mark 9.2-3 is FICTION and virtually all the so-called miracles are Implausible.

I can ONLY accept gMark as MYTH until there is EXTERNAL corroboration from non-apologetic sources.

So far, I can corroborate John the Baptist, Herod and Pilate of gMark using external sources of antiquity.

I have ZERO corroboration for Jesus and his disciples in gMARK.

J-D · 11-08-2011, 10:15 PM

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Based on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING of SPECIFIC GRAVITY, BIOLOGY and the Human Anatomy Mark 6.48-49 and Mark 9.2-3 is FICTION and virtually all the so-called miracles are Implausible.

What do your understanding of specific gravity, biology, and human anatomy tell you about Mark 11:11, mentioned by Sheshbazzar earlier?

aa5874 · 11-08-2011, 10:20 PM

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Based on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING of SPECIFIC GRAVITY, BIOLOGY and the Human Anatomy Mark 6.48-49 and Mark 9.2-3 is FICTION and virtually all the so-called miracles are Implausible.

What do your understanding of specific gravity, biology, and human anatomy tell you about Mark 11:11, mentioned by Sheshbazzar earlier?

Answer your own question. Your answer MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be correct.

Sheshbazzar · 11-08-2011, 10:54 PM

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I can tell you without hesitation that Jesus was described as a PHANTOM in gMark 6.48-49 and 9.2-3.

But you know and have stated the texts are fabrications and are untrustworthy.

How can I KNOW a text is a fabrication and untrustworthy WITHOUT FIRST SEEING the Text?

So. You have seen the TEXT. You have been able to READ and ANALISE the TEXT, and asses the VERACITY of the TEXT.

In the TEXT of Mark 11:11 Is it impossible, and CANNOT BE POSSIBLE that a human being named J***S walked in Jerusalem and entered The Temple?

-Of course one might consider, that name was very common at that time. There were probably hundreds of Jews in that region with that name.
What would be the likelihood that one of these Jewish men by that name ever visited The Temple? What are the odds?

J-D · 11-09-2011, 01:42 AM

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Based on MY OWN UNDERSTANDING of SPECIFIC GRAVITY, BIOLOGY and the Human Anatomy Mark 6.48-49 and Mark 9.2-3 is FICTION and virtually all the so-called miracles are Implausible.

What do your understanding of specific gravity, biology, and human anatomy tell you about Mark 11:11, mentioned by Sheshbazzar earlier?

Answer your own question. Your answer MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be correct.

I already have given my answer. Now you give yours.

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