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Old 10-07-2011, 08:27 AM   #571
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Why do we need a “mythicist” answer for Nazareth in GMark? I think we can examine the question in a way that is neutral with regards to the Christ myth.
Because, assuming mythicism, we deserve to know why the author of Mark would made up Nazareth as his hometown instead of Bethlehem knowing what Micah 5:2 says....
What BS!!! The author of gMark NEVER referred to Micah 5.2 and the author of gMark NEVER claimed Jesus was NOT born in Bethlehem.

We DEMAND to know why you continue to promote the logical fallacy that the Jesus of gMark MUST be born in Nazareth when it is in a Canon where it is claimed the same Jesus was BORN in Bethlehem and LATER went to live in Nazareth.

You have NO source OUTSIDE the NT to show that the Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth. You have NO claim INSIDE the NT that the Jesus of gMark was NOT Born in Bethlehem.

HJ of Nazareth is a product of LOGICAL fallacies.

It is illogical that the Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth simply based on a story that he lived in Nazareth for an UNKNOWN time.

In gMark, there is NO statement about where Jesus was born.

HJers SPECULATE that Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth and have demonstrated again and again that they think the very NT is UNRELIABLE and are forced to INVENT their history of HJ from their imagination.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:35 AM   #572
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Wow, you totally just missed the point. I'm saying it doesn't matter if Mark didn't claim he was born there. But he did say he was FROM there.

So why the association?

Do you have counter evidence by the way that he was not born there? Let's see ...
Where, exactly does Mark claim that Jesus was from Nazareth?


This looks to me like trolling.

Are you sure you're not a more absolute mythicist than what you pretend to be?

What do Mark 1:24 and 10:47 say? Jesus of what?
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Because, assuming mythicism, we deserve to know why the author of Mark would made up Nazareth as his hometown instead of Bethlehem knowing what Micah 5:2 says....
What BS!!! The author of gMark NEVER referred to Micah 5.2 and the author of gMark NEVER claimed Jesus was NOT born in Bethlehem.

We DEMAND to know why you continue to promote the logical fallacy that the Jesus of gMark MUST be born in Nazareth when it is in a Canon where it is claimed the same Jesus was BORN in Bethlehem and LATER went to live in Nazareth.

You have NO source OUTSIDE the NT to show that the Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth. You have NO claim INSIDE the NT that the Jesus of gMark was NOT Born in Bethlehem.

HJ of Nazareth is a product of LOGICAL fallacies.

It is illogical that the Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth simply based on a story that he lived in Nazareth for an UNKNOWN time.

In gMark, there is NO statement about where Jesus was born.

HJers SPECULATE that Jesus of gMark was born in Nazareth and have demonstrated again and again that they think the very NT is UNRELIABLE and are forced to INVENT their history of HJ from their imagination.
Oh, God ...

Strawman arguments. Full of it.
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Mark is not independent of other literary sources if all the other sources that mention Nazareth used Mark as a source.

You can find numerous threads on the Nazareth issue - it's been done to death. It's not decisive for any position and there's no point obsessing over it.
Yeah, yeah, keep telling yourself that, Toto. You just might end up being right.
Toto is right. It is not a decisive point.
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Where, exactly does Mark claim that Jesus was from Nazareth?


This looks to me like trolling.

Are you sure you're not a more absolute mythicist than what you pretend to be?

What do Mark 1:24 and 10:47 say? Jesus of what?
Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

as opposed to 1:9

that Jesus came from Nazareth (Nazara).

You are using bad translations.
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If Jesus is simply a made up Messiah, why .....
Who is arguing that Jesus is simply a made up Messiah?

Jake
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Yeah, yeah, keep telling yourself that, Toto. You just might end up being right.
Toto is right. It is not a decisive point.
Of course, Toto is right. He's your fellow mythicist after all.

And mythicists continue to dodge dodge dodge.:devil1:

And to think I'm going easy on you guys with just one question.
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This looks to me like trolling.

Are you sure you're not a more absolute mythicist than what you pretend to be?

What do Mark 1:24 and 10:47 say? Jesus of what?
Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

as opposed to 1:9

that Jesus came from Nazareth (Nazara).

You are using bad translations.
The translations are good. Nazarene means from Nazareth.

Thank you for confirming my point.

Now let's see your answer to my question for once. Or are you going to just keep dodging?:notworthy:
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Where, exactly does Mark claim that Jesus was from Nazareth?


This looks to me like trolling.

Are you sure you're not a more absolute mythicist than what you pretend to be?

What do Mark 1:24 and 10:47 say? Jesus of what?
Jesus the Nazarene (Nazareinos).

You are using bad translations.
Yes, I have already told MCalavera that. But MCalavera is very enthusiastic about his arguments right now, so it hasn't had a chance to sink in.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:45 AM   #580
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Jake
Don't make me enter an argument about semantics.

Still waiting for the demolishing answer from mythicists.
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