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pangloss · 01-22-2005, 02:57 PM

Williams has a history of censoring the opposition and lying about it (see this , for example).

So now, he opens up his own "debate" board .

Silly me, I register, and the usual double standards kick in IMMEDIATELY (like I expected anything more?).

So anyway, I get suspended out of the blue - no explanation, no excuse. I get an email today telling me I am banned.

The reason? I DARED to write this about Dembski:

“True - in his books, he tends to rely on concocted and inapplicable mathematical equations (most of which are just rehashes of his previous works). You'd think that his readers would have caught on by now - the guy just wants to make a buck.�?

I suggest NOT wasting your time. Your posts will get censored or deleted.

bluesky · 01-22-2005, 03:17 PM

Aww, sorry for wasting your time there. Thanks for trying, though, hopefully someone saw your posts and thought for a second…

Just to cheer you up, I'll share something I discovered while wasting some time on his Biography:

His daughter: Abigail
My name: Abigail

His wife: Sandy
My first dog: Sandy

His college grad date: 1983
My birthdate: 1983

His university degree is from: UM Rolla
My bro’s degree from: UM Rolla

Year he becaume interested in the evo/creation debate: 1996
Year I became interested in my brothers friend Lyle: 1996

It’s creepy man. I take it back, the universe is designed. It's impossible for that complex connection to arise naturally**cue creepy music** hehe

jcain6 · 01-26-2005, 10:19 AM

Wow! He banned you for that? I have yet to succeed at such an accomplishment. It is fun debating over there because many of the members are hardcore YEC and when the lose they just stop replying.

Everyone should check it out.

www.evolutionfairytale.com

Cheers.

Non-praying Mantis · 01-26-2005, 11:51 AM

When I see that site, I think:

[singing]

If they only had a brain...

[/singing]

NPM

RGD · 01-26-2005, 12:01 PM

Who is the 'John Paul' who posts there? Is he the John Paul who used to post at EVC? Is he Salvador "Differential Equation" Cordova?

What he is saying about the Debmski E/F sounds suspiciously familiar.

jcain6 · 01-26-2005, 01:58 PM

John Paul is a creationist that is not Christian. That is all I know from his bio.

Shpongle · 01-26-2005, 03:10 PM

Eh, I registered and posted a thread. Will be interesting to see what happens.

RBH · 01-26-2005, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGD

Who is the 'John Paul' who posts there? Is he the John Paul who used to post at EVC? Is he Salvador "Differential Equation" Cordova?

What he is saying about the Debmski E/F sounds suspiciously familiar.

How about giving links? Or do I have to read the whole damned board to find it?

RBH

Added in edit: OK, found it. By the profile, at least John Paul isn't Sal. 'Course, we all know profiles are absolute truth, since they're written down.

JonF · 01-26-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGD

Who is the 'John Paul' who posts there? Is he the John Paul who used to post at EVC? Is he Salvador "Differential Equation" Cordova?

I'm pretty sure he is JP from EvC, and is not Salvador. I saw a claim, I forget where, that John Paul is ID's Bulldog (or something like that) at AARN. I dunno about that one.

Xixax · 01-27-2005, 06:50 AM

That board is a complete waste of time. I said my "farewell" after only 3 posts after reading the thread on nylon eating bacteria. Let them all live together in a commune, hug each other covered in jelly straight from the church cookbook and talk only using quoted scripture if they want to. Until one of these men or women show up at my local schoolboard, they can do whatever the hell they please.

01-22-2005, 02:57 PM	#1
pangloss Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,302	Fred Williams "debate" board - waste of electrons Williams has a history of censoring the opposition and lying about it (see this , for example). So now, he opens up his own "debate" board . Silly me, I register, and the usual double standards kick in IMMEDIATELY (like I expected anything more?). So anyway, I get suspended out of the blue - no explanation, no excuse. I get an email today telling me I am banned. The reason? I DARED to write this about Dembski: “True - in his books, he tends to rely on concocted and inapplicable mathematical equations (most of which are just rehashes of his previous works). You'd think that his readers would have caught on by now - the guy just wants to make a buck.�? I suggest NOT wasting your time. Your posts will get censored or deleted.

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01-22-2005, 03:17 PM	#2
bluesky Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cydonia, aka Oklahoma Posts: 803	Aww, sorry for wasting your time there. Thanks for trying, though, hopefully someone saw your posts and thought for a second… Just to cheer you up, I'll share something I discovered while wasting some time on his Biography: His daughter: Abigail My name: Abigail His wife: Sandy My first dog: Sandy His college grad date: 1983 My birthdate: 1983 His university degree is from: UM Rolla My bro’s degree from: UM Rolla Year he becaume interested in the evo/creation debate: 1996 Year I became interested in my brothers friend Lyle: 1996 It’s creepy man. I take it back, the universe is designed. It's impossible for that complex connection to arise naturallycue creepy music hehe

01-26-2005, 10:19 AM	#3
jcain6 Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 105	Wow! He banned you for that? I have yet to succeed at such an accomplishment. It is fun debating over there because many of the members are hardcore YEC and when the lose they just stop replying. Everyone should check it out. www.evolutionfairytale.com Cheers.

01-26-2005, 11:51 AM	#4
Non-praying Mantis Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Roanoke, VA, USA Posts: 2,646	When I see that site, I think: [singing] If they only had a brain... [/singing] NPM

01-26-2005, 12:01 PM	#5
RGD Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The House of Reeds Posts: 4,245	Who is the 'John Paul' who posts there? Is he the John Paul who used to post at EVC? Is he Salvador "Differential Equation" Cordova? What he is saying about the Debmski E/F sounds suspiciously familiar.

01-26-2005, 01:58 PM	#6
jcain6 Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 105	John Paul is a creationist that is not Christian. That is all I know from his bio.

01-26-2005, 03:10 PM	#7
Shpongle Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frozen North Posts: 9,920	Eh, I registered and posted a thread. Will be interesting to see what happens.

01-27-2005, 06:50 AM	#10
Xixax Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,101	That board is a complete waste of time. I said my "farewell" after only 3 posts after reading the thread on nylon eating bacteria. Let them all live together in a commune, hug each other covered in jelly straight from the church cookbook and talk only using quoted scripture if they want to. Until one of these men or women show up at my local schoolboard, they can do whatever the hell they please.

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