Ted Hoffman

Her alleged reasons have been dealt with and she knows as much. Instead of countering arguments against her positions, she just digs in and deploys a tu quoque fallacy.

Camio

I am aware of the reasons she gave below in her text. But my remark was on the form of her comment. OK, it is just a blog post, not a peer-reviewed article. Even so, this is perplexing from a scholar.

Ben C Smith

Perplexing or not, her comment was not a statement of faith. Granted, having reasons to think something is not as strong as having proof for it. But the reasons she gave were all to do with what the ancient texts say (Hegesippus, Paul), not with her own religious beliefs.

Ben.

Ben C Smith

The reasons she gave were Paul and Hegesippus.

Ben.

dog-on

So both scriptural and revelatory...thanks.

aa5874

Your statement does not make much sense.

You must mean that you cannot prove that your Jesus existed, and the reasons for your belief cannot help you.

On the other hand, mythers can find no history of Jesus, and Jesus was described in a mythical or implausible way by the authors of the NT, church writers and even non-canonised writings.

The mythers will always exist because HJers claim they cannot prove Jesus existed.

Ben C Smith

I am just going to come right out and say it; these kinds of comments reflect poorly on the ones making them, not on the ones about whom they are being made.

When a creationist accuses the scientific community of holding to biological evolution as a religious commitment, does that say more about the religious views of the evolutionists or about the religious views of the creationists?

Yes, this is the kind of response that is needed, not vague insinuations of a religious commitment to an historical Jesus when actual arguments (or, in this case, snippets of arguments, since she was merely summarizing her overall view) are presented. We need to deal with the arguments themselves and point out potential fallacies in the position(s) taken, as Ted has done here.

Ben.

dog-on

Of course, "mythers" can accept Jesus Christ, Son of God, from the Gospels without any issue.

We don't even need to make anything up.

Ben C Smith

Which statement of mine? You did not quote even one word of mine.

Ben.

dog-on

BS, Ben...

My statement reflects the actual truth of the matter. Remember also that, unlike a Jesus historicist, evolution can provide actual evidence and not simply wishful thinking.