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Old 04-30-2007, 08:08 AM   #181
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Yah sure. Your complete misinterpretation of graphs is really a secret message for your imaginary followers. It's so secret, even you don't know what it means.
This comment is only for the benefit of someone reading this without having seen the post or know what it is about. Again, the 95.4% range for the end destruction of City IV is clearly stated to be 918-923BCE. 925 BCE, the current "fixed" dating for Shishak's invasion is outside this range. My chronology dating for this event based upon Manetho's reference that would point to Akhenaten as the pharaoh ruling immediately after the Exodus pushes that event 54 or more years later than 925BCE, dates which fall within the 918-923BCE range. Therefore, there is nothing to misread about the information. However, the chart itself has a graduated Y-axis that does measure "relative probability" and the highest peak reaching 98-100% are for limited dates between 874-867BCE. Those dates also are mid-range for the 2-sigma range already stated of 918-823BCE. It goes without saying that for any range, middle range dates and higher percentage dates are generally considered closer to the "true date" than end dates in any given range. But having said that, as long as my date for Shishak's invasion, which is 871BCE falls within the given max range of 918-823BCE and the 925BCE dating does not, there is an archaeological basis of preference for the 871BCE vs 925BCE, which is the only reason I use the graph, to show that the 925BCE dating is likely incorrect for assignment to Shishak when City IV is assigned to that destruction level.

My added "pointers" in Red simply point out the values in the chart. No interpretation beyond that is implied.




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Old 05-01-2007, 04:24 PM   #182
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Larsguy47 I would really like to know how you know it's god talking to you. Evidence please.

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And when the poster makes the argument all about himself? What then?
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It seems that people who have the very real seeming (I know!!!) experiences that are sleep paralysis, and don't know that they are sleep paralysis experiences, interpret those experiences in ways consistent with their preconceptions.

People who believe in aliens experience them as alien abductions, believers in demons view them as incubi and succubi etc.

So the point about consistency of the experience with the bible seems to me without merit.

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I talked to the devil. Of course, I knew I was hallucinating because I had read about sleep paralysis. The feeling of a presence can be very convincing though.
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Larsguy47 I would really like to know how you know it's god talking to you. Evidence please.

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There is no "evidence" to share with you to prove to you I heard a voice from God. I can only say I believed it to be true in connection with my belief in the Bible that the messiah was to arrive in 1992, sometime between November 30, 1992 and April 3, 1993, and that was consistent with my experience. Also the messiah is supposed to be an "Etiopian eunuch", a black gay man or effeminate male, who had the life of the prodigal son. That was me. Also this person must be associated with the "Rich Man" organization which turns out to be the "evil slave" organization and the "false prophet" organization in the last days, though this organization would also be the "temple organization" appearing in 1886 to 1996. This is the Jehovah's witness organization who preach the "good news" worldwide as a sign of the time of the end and the second coming. But they do not have the full truth. This is the situation when at first the prodigal son messiah as "Lazarus" is outside the gates of the "Rich Man" who has lots of spiritual food, lots of knowledge. Lazarus wants this spiritual food, even a crumb dropping from the table of the Rich Man. The Rich Man are the leaders of the Watchtower Society. But he is outside the gate, meaning kicked out because of his homosexuality. This is represented by the sores on his body. The dogs that come t lick those sores represent his weakness for "dogs" or dominant homosexual men. But then things drastically change! When the prodigal son returns, God chooses him for the identity of the second coming messiah! Thus he goes to the bosom position of the Father. In that position he is delighted because all the knowledge he wanted he now has.

But then that knowledge tortures the Rich Man who wants some relief, just a drop of water from Lazarus because everything they say now is parched and dry and inaccurate. So they are in torment and Lazarus now has all the answers and all the knowledge he wanted.

Lazarus, in turn, gives this information to his secret followers.

Here's how this unfolds in REVELATION 12:

1 And a great sign was seen in heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars, 2 and she was pregnant. And she cries out in her pains and in her agony to give birth.

This is the time of the second coming, near the birth of the messiah. This woman represents Christ's secret followers/secret socities on the earth. The messiah is one of her members.

3 And another sign was seen in heaven, and, look! a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; 4 and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child.

This links the time Satan is kicked out of heaven with the second coming! But note, this is not the END OF THE WORLD, Satan is still active but now simply cast out of heaven and down to the Earth. This must occur between November 30, 1992 and April 6 (Passover) 1993, per Bible chronology.


5 And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne.

The child being caught away to God and his throne, means the child becomes the messiah and goes to the "bosom position" of the father like Lazarus in the bosom position of Abraham.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Please note, this woman is on the earth and has a special place of secrecy prepared for her by God. Thus all the servants now of the new messiah now in the flesh are in secret. They don't meet in public. And they are fed by the messiah and his new knowledge now for 3-1/2 years.

7 And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”


Please note that MICHAEL is Michael, the Archangel who is Jesus when he's an angel in heaven. He has always been there and it is he who is kicking Satan out of heaven. So at the critical point of when the woman is giving birth to the messiah on the earth, there is another messiah in heaven! There are TWO MESSIAHS! But they become one when Christ takes up the body of his follower chosen for this, the prodigal son. This is not that hard to follow.

13 Now when the dragon saw that it was hurled down to the earth, it persecuted the woman that gave birth to the male child. 14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.

Also very important. Of course the Devil wants to destroy the woman, but she is hidden in a secret society. That means all the Devil's agencies of surveillance can't see her and thus can't try to infiltrate her organization and destroy it from within as usual. This secret society is "away from the face of the serpent."


15 And the serpent disgorged water like a river from its mouth after the woman, to cause her to be drowned by the river. 16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth. 17 And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.

Finally, even though the Devil cannot directly interfere with these secret members, he can try to brainwash them and stumble them and drown them with strong, persuasive propaganda, depicted as water like a river. But the woman depends upon the "earth", the Bible, which swallows up this river. The earth is also more substantial evidence than the water that it swallows up. Thus this propaganda would be all the usual attacks on the Bible and God from theories about how old life is, allegedly supported by scientific information to ongoing discussions of how the Bible doesn't match up well archaeologically, like claiming that since no evidence is found in the wilderness for the LBIIA period, that's proof it never happened. These things can be somewhat challenging. But enough faith in the Bible as well as some other concrete evidence, such as the double-dating in the VAT4956 that has survived with the original dating for the NB Period, just swallow up those false but persuasive arguments.

Case in point when you use the VAT4956 to redate the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar to 511BCE, then the eclipse date in the Assyrian eponym list drops down 54 years to 709BCE, which in turn causes the year of Shishak's invasion to drop down from 925BCE to 871BCE! That would be the true Biblical date. Thus the most independent means of dating in archaeology is radiocarbon 14, and when a sample of short-lived cereals is found burned at a destructive level, the dating for that event can be within a year of the age of those short-lived cereals. That's what the fuss is about the findings at City IV at Rehov,which is considered the level destroyed by Shishak. That RC14 dating points to 871BCE as the high probability date for that level of destruction!

http://www.geocities.com/ed_maruyama/rehov872.html

See how the more concrete scientific information from Rehov swallows up the theories challenging the Bible's chronology since it proves that Rehov fell to Shishak precisely when the Bible dates that event.



Thus the promised swallowing up of Satan's high-level academic propaganda is fulfilled. Using the Rehov RC14 dating and the VAT4956 we can establish our own chronology and just laugh at people who don't realize they have the wrong dates, now proven by extra-Biblical reference. We have evidence of the truth, therefore, and that allows us to ignore all those ongoing arguments or those things that you can't prove one way or the other. We have explicit faith in the Bible.

Plus we have added convidence seeing the "sign of the son of man" which is a miracle....



All we have to do now, is wait until the last ones are being sealed into the kingdom. The number has to be 1,440,000. When that last person is sealed then the process toward Armageddon can begin when the world will experience another "great tribulation"; this time a great economic disaster worldwide. That will last up to one year and 3 months per the Bible and then all worldly governments will be destroyed and the miillennium will begin.

HOW? God may simply do as he did in Egypt and simply have an angel kill off everybody who is not chosen to survive into the kingdom. He can cause them to fight against themselves and people will kill each other off. In the end, when there is no one left who belong to the worldly governments, then they will cease to exist. The only survivors will be once chosen to survive into the millennium.

That's all that's left. Everything else, including obviously the second coming, has been fulfilled.

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