Johnny Skeptic

If a global flood did occur, what credible evidence is there that the God of the Bible caused it? In addition, what credible evidence is there that a man named Noah was on the ark with his family and inlaws?

The flood is actually one of the least of YEC's problems. Most if not all of them are inerrantists. Even if a global flood occurred, that does not necessarily mean that the Bible is inerrant. YEC's have the entire Bible to defend, not just the global flood.

Calilasseia

But of course if it didn't, the inerrantists are really up merde creek without a paddle.

Johnny Skeptic

Quite true. I just wanted to show YEC's that they lose even if a global flood did occur.

Quintas

I see what you mean. Something that catastrophic WOULD become a part human lore and would be given a supernatural explanation. I'm thinking that if say there were a legend of a fire from the sky that killed almost everyone on Earth and we discovered a large impact crater dated to some time in human prehistory. All it would prove is that pre-scientific cultures blamed a natural catastrophe on angry gods.

JaronK

Actually, the global flood would be evidence of something supernatural, as there's not enough water on the planet for that to have worked in the first place.

JaronK

Johnny Skeptic

In which case, which God caused the global flood?

Keith&Co.

Well, there's got to be a flow diagram for such things.

Before quoting scripture to me, prove that there is a god, that god is the divine source of the writings in The Books, and that the message in the verse you're quoting preserves the meaning intended by the deity responsible. Then, why should i give a damn that God doesn't want me to wear wool and cotton together.


We're still waiting for any sort of evidence of a global flood, THEN that evidence might lead us to the cause, then we can argue if there must be a supernatural source, then which source, then how that impacts our understanding of a loving god with so much blood on his hands, and so on, so forth, etc.

dlawbailey

In creative writing the rule is "show, don't tell".

If Christians built a replica ark and it did not float, the "picture is worth a thousand words" effect would kick in and they would be in serious trouble. They know it, which is why all of a sudden they have all become "experts" in genetic diversity.

It is called a "smoke screen".

Look, if the Bible said that the Ark was the size of a regular tugboat, I agree that Bible-thumpers would be telling us how Noah extracted the DNA of all the world's animals and put it in clay jars. In fact, I'd watch out for that one. I'll bet it's coming. Something in the later prophets (thousands of years after Noah, of course) will tell the Bible-thumpers the usual: "See, what God really meant was............"

And as far as the global flood, ya really had to wonder what it was like that day in Christville when they figured out there wasn't actually enough water surrounding the entire Earth to cover up the mountains - bit of a blow to that assumption. But how cares? It's what people can see in their mind's eye that's important.