whichphilosophy

I was involved for a number of years and you've got it wrong and out of distored out of proportion, but there again you are entitled to your beliefs of course if it makes you happy.

whichphilosophy

You better introduce me to these people then.

Actually I was a bit of a nut job when I first did courses so I don't think it made a difference.

Considering I see the people who have problems with depression, ADHD, problems with life, sleeping disorders, and other "incurable ills" I would say I'm pretty fortunate to have resolved these matters years ago even though I didn't go high up higher levels.

And money's no problem now as it was no problem then.

I think you've read something that is on the internet, for you are normally sharper than that.

Anway with the Antipsychiatry thread dead I may have a bit of time to look at some other threads.

lisarea

They're definitely worse than most. Threatening, harassing, and intimidating their critics are SOP. They claim their 'gospel' as TRADE SECRETS, because it is so deeply and profoundly stupid that people insufficiently brainwashed and gullible just find it comical and stupid. They charge a LOT of money for religious instruction.

Most religions at least have some core belief system that professes admirable values. Scientology core tenets involve things like being able to kill people by looking at them.

Definitely worse. Stupid and evil to the core.

whichphilosophy

Believe it or not that's pretty much what I found but perhaps one would say that mainstream psychology is no competition because it's basically banging its head against the wall and getting jammed in more theories in ever decreasing circles.

Though a person spending on courses without understanding about the principles of the subject (apart from one or two basic courses) would be wasting their money and time.

Regards

Selsaral

Yes, they go to ridiculous lengths to ruin the lives of people who leave and attempt to criticize scientology. Their mantra is 'sue, sue, sue'. It's an intentional tactic to file baseless lawsuits simply to exhaust the finances of their enemies. They are despicable.

whichphilosophy

This doesn't actually tell you about the subject.

Some of he logic is difficult to get one's head around. I can be specific if necessary but I'm just rushing through this.

By the way did you read the article by Tilman Hausner Advice to Scientology kids. As a parent (though my kids have never done course) I would say this article (one of the feature Xenu articles) is a verbal assault on kids and really only reflects the mentality of the author. In fact the article reflects more about himself than the targetted kids.

Advise any readers however that, if some of this is posted by mail this would be a poison pen letter (check the contents and ask imagine what would you would do if someone spoke to your kid like that).

Now how does that relate to my 7 year old daughter who sits in a class with 9 year olds and is in the top 3 out of 30 with no bad subjects. She speaks Chinese English Tagalog and can do complex mental arithmetic multiplications and divisions.

The younger one aged 6 is a bit lazy. She sits in a class of 7 year olds only. This alone contradicts the article.

In other words the article is also non factual in the main and irrelevant in others. There are some 2,100 articles of which it would take thousands of pages to go through, so why stick our noses in the trough.

Still we live in a free society and superstition and fear are often with us. I'm not bothered about defending the subject but just commenting as I have time on my hands today
Take care now :wave:

PaperCut

Let's say Jesus didn't come 2,000 years ago, but he came today. Would Christianity be that diffirent from the church of Scientology?

When I listen to Christian radio stations today, I'm stiked by how often instead of Bible scholars they have psychologists, family counselors, and other experts on their shows, talking for example about who Christian couples can have a sex life after having children!!


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whichphilosophy

Having once been involved (see my profile) I can't think that I managed to kill anyone by looking at them, but as I'm so ugly perhaps a few people died looking at me. Maybe you have the reference.

Do you know why Trade Marks were introduced, or why Scn says it introduced these (whether you believe this or not?).

And the courses are not done in a manner like religious instruction. Do you know how the courses are run vs standard educational courses?

Best regards,

whichphilosophy

You could tell Jesus because he's got holes in his hands.

Actually some psychologists and counsellors talk being able to have a sex life after marriage so these people must be doing pretty well.

Regards,

RussianM3_dude

I debated a Scientologist on another site and they are clearly insane. Just like Christianity masks the insanity (thinking that imaginary things are real, is actually applauded) so does Scientology. It doesn't cure people from mental illness. it take it to a whole new level.

It is my experience that mentally damaged people are especially attracted to that cult. And a cult is only as crazy as it's adherents. Nuttier then a pine tree.