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Old 08-30-2003, 03:04 PM   #21
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What kind of person am I and what help do I need and for what?
The kind of person who doesn't think to question his religion.

Like you and I agreed pre-birth, to have this discussion, because we haven't had this conversation before.
Sorry, before I was conceived I had neither brain nor tongue. I wasn't doing much chatting

Imagine that after having lived a good life for many lives, you have a craving to know what it feels like to be shot and die.
I don't get what you are doing here.
We were comparing your myths to reality and by the use of rhetorical questions trying to push you into thinking for yourself.
Now you are playing with fantasy. Do you find it too frightening to see if your beliefs are true to continue on that track?
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The kind of person who doesn't think to question his religion.


What is my religion?





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Old 08-30-2003, 11:19 PM   #23
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The kind of person who doesn't think to question his religion.


What is my religion?
Judging on your posting history, very flexible, it seems.

If you want to elaborate, that would be interesting.
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Lets just say I am no more a christian than a buddhist. Not more a hindu than a muslim. Not more a jew than a pagan.... and so on.





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Lets just say I am no more a christian than a buddhist. Not more a hindu than a muslim. Not more a jew than a pagan....
And no more coherent than a southern baptist...
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Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. St. Augustine.
Don't you see how circular that is? It's like something straight out of Peter Pan!

I think you would greatly benefit from taking a basic logic class. Or at least studying a bit.
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I wonder if God ever took a basic logics course devised by humans?------Would He have passed Logic 101? Would He have cared whether He passed what we think our version of logic is?

Would He have gone to a local bar after taking this "test" and drink a few brewskies and laugh His ass off at our incompetence, ignorance and stupidity?

I wonder if He even could vaguely understand what our concept of logic is?

And I wonder if we could even vaguely understand through a very dark mirror what God's concept of logic is?

I think we are talking apples and oranges here.

I like what St. Augustine said there. Obviously you do not like it because it does not fit within the prospectus of Logic 101. I think God does like it and understands the reasoning perfectly well even though you are obviously incapable of doing that.
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Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. St. Augustine.

If you look at it, another message that is there is: Ask and you shall be given. That is not circular, but it is basicly teh same as what augustine said.








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I wonder if God ever took a basic logics course devised by humans?------Would He have passed Logic 101? Would He have cared whether He passed what we think our version of logic is?

Would He have gone to a local bar after taking this "test" and drink a few brewskies and laugh His ass off at our incompetence, ignorance and stupidity?

I wonder if He even could vaguely understand what our concept of logic is?

And I wonder if we could even vaguely understand through a very dark mirror what God's concept of logic is?

I think we are talking apples and oranges here.

I like what St. Augustine said there. Obviously you do not like it because it does not fit within the prospectus of Logic 101. I think God does like it and understands the reasoning perfectly well even though you are obviously incapable of doing that.
I am perfectly capable of understanding the reasoning, RBAC. I even understand why it is a fallacy. Do you? I am not surprised you like the quote, though. And since you like it, of course god does too. Oh, and you might want to avoid the personal insults next time.

You confuse me, RBAC. On the one hand, you seem to be the consumate populist, with your disgust at people who use "big words" (whatever that means) and your opinion that "anything at all" has a layman's explanation. At the same time, you hold humanity in contempt. The above post shows that you think that there is something inherently flawed with human reason, even though you also think we were created by your god. There have been many other posts that betray a similar bias, especially all of your ant analogies.

If your god has problems understanding our logic, I seriously doubt he is worthy of being called god. I'm not surprised that a lot of humans have trouble with it though. Which brings me to another point. Why can't your god communicate his logic in a clear and unintelligible fashion, so that any layman can understand it? If he has a different logic from ours, surely a being as great as he could still explain it so that even I can understand it?
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Where is the beginning of a circle?

The circle exist, but we can't see where it began can we?






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