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Lel · 12-01-2006, 06:48 AM

Oy....I'll check this all when I get home. In the meantime, I'll be busy assuming the best of people, except for those that I'm, you know....witch...etc.

seebs · 12-01-2006, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

Are the dates and thread activities rigs pointed out incorrect? Is there an expiration date after which a post shouldn't incur staff action?

Historically, "one week" is the pragmatic limit; after that, there might be an edit, if one is really really needed, but there's no room for action-against-user.

Lel · 12-01-2006, 06:50 AM

PS: If a violation is reported and it is in fact a violation, we pretty much have to take action...

seebs · 12-01-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Letalis

I do not know of any past situations regarding Kassiana. In fact I joined staff a while after Bradford was removed from staff. What I know is that staff are accused of engaging in "corrupt" behaviors regularly.

And since, on a daily basis, there are examples of corrupt staff actions, that accusation seems to be fair of the aggregate group "staff" even though many individual staff rarely or even never engage in corrupt behaviors. (Well, assuming "compliance in coverups" doesn't count. If it does, then every staff member is engaging in corrupt behavior every day.)

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What I am saying is that accusations that staff are out to get people, and this inclination to muddy staff's motives in everything is something of a double standard.

No one is muddying the motives of staff in everything. Just in specific things where we have concrete evidence.

Looks like I should take a few minutes to write up more examples.

seebs · 12-01-2006, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeywrench

Going on a witch hunt kinda implies you have some power to burn someone.

A consistent pattern of harassment is, in context, more retaliation than a witch hunt.

Kassiana · 12-01-2006, 06:56 AM

Like I said, if there were nothing to hide, you could reveal everything. Seeing how staff squeals every time your words are exposed to the light, I think you guys must be doing evil. Go ahead and prove me wrong if you'd like, but I think it makes sense and is in line with what I've experienced and seen from staff from CF.

seebs · 12-01-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lel

PS: If a violation is reported and it is in fact a violation, we pretty much have to take action...

Yes, but Nitz's post was not a violation, and I don't thinkNitz's signature was a violation either... Unless the post quoted was a violation, but obviously, no one did anything to the poster there.

Calling every gay person on the forum who has decided to be serious about a relationship the equivalent of a murderer is not actionable, because it's vicious, cruel, and untrie. Quoting someone doing it is actionable because it's true and doesn't make staff look good.

Sorry, but no; the recent treatment of Nitz is 100% retaliation and should not be getting defended.

You guys need to take some responsibility. When ksen admits that not only were specific users discussed in staff threads, but that he was the very first person to bring my name up and make assertion about my spouse's genetalia, then I'll take seriously your claims that staff is not, as a whole (though not always as individuals) corrupt.

Until then, it's empty words, with no hint of repentance.

seebs · 12-01-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kassiana

Like I said, if there were nothing to hide, you could reveal everything. Seeing how staff squeals every time your words are exposed to the light, I think you guys must be doing evil. Go ahead and prove me wrong if you'd like, but I think it makes sense and is in line with what I've experienced and seen from staff from CF.

Well, it's not just the squealing; it's that we consistently find evil when we do get a look at the real contents. Is there good too? Of course. But that there is good does not mean there is not evil.

Kassiana · 12-01-2006, 07:02 AM

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Well, it's not just the squealing; it's that we consistently find evil when we do get a look at the real contents.

Yes, that too. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

monkeywrench · 12-01-2006, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by countrygal

morning all. just an update on the whole lawyer thing. i have an appointment on ajn 4th with my lawyer to get together and discuss the case. i was kind of worried about him not having enough time to get everything straight before my court date but he feels it's all the time he needs and htat it's pretty open and shut so....

Sweet! I know you'll be glad when this is all behind you.

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12-01-2006, 06:48 AM	#401
Lel Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phx area Posts: 3,122	Oy....I'll check this all when I get home. In the meantime, I'll be busy assuming the best of people, except for those that I'm, you know....witch...etc.

12-01-2006, 06:50 AM	#403
Lel Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phx area Posts: 3,122	PS: If a violation is reported and it is in fact a violation, we pretty much have to take action...

12-01-2006, 06:56 AM	#406
Kassiana Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: USA Posts: 5,046	Like I said, if there were nothing to hide, you could reveal everything. Seeing how staff squeals every time your words are exposed to the light, I think you guys must be doing evil. Go ahead and prove me wrong if you'd like, but I think it makes sense and is in line with what I've experienced and seen from staff from CF.

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