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Old 09-28-2007, 06:08 PM   #11
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If "belief" is all that is required then Zeus is a fact, also.
How many believe in Zeus?
St.Paul believed in Zeus accordig to Acts 17:24-28.

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24"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'
This is from a poem refering to we being the offspring of Zeus, isn't it?
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How many believe in Zeus?
St.Paul believed in Zeus accordig to Acts 17:24-28.

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24"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'
This is from a poem refering to we being the offspring of Zeus, isn't it?
Believe it, kid!
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As Ubercat says, it does not matter why gods or goddesses go out of fashion.
Ubercat did not say that. And even what he did say was evasive. That makes two of you.
What was evasive in our posts? One superstition beat out another one. It's happened many times throughout history. Why don't the arabs believe in their old desert gods anymore? Islam exterminated the old religions. Does that mean allah is real?

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Ubercat did not say that. And even what he did say was evasive. That makes two of you.
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It means that 'Allah' may be more useful. The principle characteristic of Muhammad's deity is the deletion of the death by crucifixion of Jesus, while, note well, retaining great respect for said person. Clever, eh.
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Does that mean allah is real?
It means that 'Allah' may be more useful. The principle characteristic of Muhammad's deity is the deletion of the death by crucifixion of Jesus, while, note well, retaining great respect for said person. Clever, eh.
More christian obfuscation. Less embarrasing then admitting that you've been full of shit of course, but utterly useless for actually cleaning the shit out.

Or is this post just a clever way of admitting that your religion is a tool to manipulate the masses. We already knew that.

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It means that 'Allah' may be more useful.
Just as for you, worshipping Jesus the Christ is more useful than a volcano...


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It's the same thing as saying he died and then rose again, Muslims just aren't as easily deceived or duped as Christians, in this case.

You are sounding more and more like your "brethren" on this side of the pond...



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More christian obfuscation. Less embarrasing then admitting that you've been full of shit of course, but utterly useless for actually cleaning the shit out.

Or is this post just a clever way of admitting that your religion is a tool to manipulate the masses. We already knew that.
The masses Clouseau manipulates with his religion are the ones in his mind, where it's safe.
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To the participants: a little more decorum and less group insults, please, no matter how your are provoked.

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How many believe in Zeus?
St.Paul believed in Zeus accordig to Acts 17:24-28.

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24 "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27 God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28 'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'
This is from a poem refering to we being the offspring of Zeus, isn't it?
This is an interesting point. It appears to be Paul speaking as a pagan to the pagans. (Although, of course, the real author of the speech was the author of Acts.) Zeus appears to be a stand-in for a pagan monotheistic god. Are you aware of any commentary on this.
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This is an interesting point. It appears to be Paul speaking as a pagan to the pagans. (Although, of course, the real author of the speech was the author of Acts.) Zeus appears to be a stand-in for a pagan monotheistic god. Are you aware of any commentary on this.
No I am not aware of any commentary. It sounds to me like Paul (or the author of Acts) is conceding that any description of the divine is a metaphor anyway so the idea of Zeus might be as valid as any other concept.
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