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|  06-21-2010, 10:34 AM | #1 | ||
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|  06-21-2010, 10:53 AM | #2 | 
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			It sounds like "critical investigation" has to mean any research that shows the Bible is not true.  Kenneth Greifer http://www.messianicmistakes.com/ | 
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|  06-21-2010, 02:28 PM | #3 | 
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			Very interesting article.  Thanks!
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|  06-22-2010, 09:55 PM | #4 | |||
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			Dr. Hendel is not the first person to point out the "religion" problem at SBL.  Some of us recall an article (dated December 16, 2007) that already touched on the topic. The article's author stated, among other things: Quote: 
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 All of this leads me to ask: to what extent are religious fundamentalists willing to go to ensure that their growing influence in the academy is not threatened by provocative, whistle-blowing criticism appearing on sites like NowPublic? | |||
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|  06-23-2010, 12:45 AM | #5 | 
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			meow - I do not intent to rehash the long discussion I had with Charles Gadda about this. Suffice it to say that the individuals that you mention are not religious fundamentalists.
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|  06-23-2010, 04:21 AM | #6 | ||
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 Toto replies that the individuals mentioned "are not religious fundamentalists," and suggests that this "suffices" to refute the claims made by Gadda. This is about as evasive as SBL's response; Toto may wish to read Richard Miller's comment again: "Instead of hearing the general spirit of his criticisms, you have effectively deflected and dismissed the core elements of [the] concerns. SBL has indeed become overgrown with 'faith-based' scholarship." As for the term "fundamentalist," I used it in my earlier comment (posted above) simply to refer to the phenomenon described by Hendel: the recourse to dogmatic claims rather than critical argument. Some of those responding to Hendel (including SBL itself) take issue with his own use of the term. I see no reason to stop using the term loosely to refer to faith-based scholarship. In fact, with respect to the Dead Sea Scrolls a good deal of research seems to treat the "sectarian" theory itself as a kind of religious dogma to which one must adhere, barring which one will be marginalized and excluded from participating in various forums. This hardly rises to the level of academic freedom and critical scholarship demanded by Hendel and others. P.s. I did not realize that Toto had a "lengthy discussion" with Charles Gadda about these issues. I do recall reading a discussion on this site about SBL, replete with personal invective directed at Gadda and at a University of Chicago scholar, but I didn't recall Toto being part of that discussion. | ||||||||
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|  06-23-2010, 02:55 PM | #8 | 
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			logged and forwarded (6/23/2010).
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|  06-23-2010, 04:43 PM | #9 | ||
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 Aside from fundamentaism, there are those of various religious or political or dogmatic persuasions who still are willing to operate under the rules of secular scholarship. You may disgree with these people and think that their thinking is biased, but they still agee on what the standard of proof is. It is a common insult these days to call people who are not persuaded by your logic "fundamentalist," but this is a misuse of the term, especially in this discussion. Quote: 
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