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Old 01-18-2006, 08:30 AM   #21
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Let's say you stumble upon a new religion, one that no one has ever heard of before. The only way to know what their practices and beliefs are, though, is through questions. You cannot observe them in action, nor you cannot read their scriptures, but mostly anything you ask them they will respond to you fairly freely. What questions would you ask?

This will be a mock scenario, if you will.
Well... To me, if there is such new religion, my questions would be something like the following:

Let's assume, new religion X

1) What is X? What is not X?
2) Why X? What are the goals of X?
3) How does one practice X?
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:50 AM   #22
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They cannot violate the 3 virtues pertaining to the laity as defined by the Traditions of the Elders. Mostly these prohibitions are against murder, thievery, lying, and hypocrisy.
So ... what are these three virtues then? And are there really only three of them?
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Morals, as in mores, or social norms? There are plenty of writings dealing with them, although everything stems from the 3 virtues and 3 duties.
And where can we read these writings, please?
And what are the three duties?
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God is all the Natural Laws inseperated. Actually, God is very insignificant for living - there's almost a dichotomy between theology and pragmatics.
What is theology and how is it studied?
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Yes.
In what sense? In the same way that centrifugal forces exist, or in the same way that you exist? If your god exists, where does he/she/it exist?
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Because you exist.
Is that it? Is this the best (only?) reason why I should believe (in?) your god?
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Believe my God? How can I believe my God? My God doesn't talk.
Well, you did write: "However, if you can adhere to the morals, but not believe our god, then we have no problem with you." Was this just a typo?

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Of course not.
Good. Does this include punishments of the "If you don't believe in the Law of Gravity then your punishment will be broken bones and severe concussion" type?
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Thank you for your questions. I appreciate it.
You're welcome - I've had slow days as well.
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Old 01-18-2006, 11:02 AM   #23
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So ... what are these three virtues then? And are there really only three of them?
Yes, there are three. Well, three basic virtues. All other "virtues" or "morals" can be derived by these three: honesty, equality, and frugality.

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And where can we read these writings, please?
Unfortunately, they haven't been translated yet. However, if you ask questions, they will be explained, sometimes even quoted.

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And what are the three duties?
The three duties may appear gibberish to outsiders. The Sages have elucidated the meanings for us, to not allow corrupt interpretations. The duties are: fidelity to yourself, humility before mankind, and piety under God. The three virtues and three duties are the basis of the Principle.

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What is theology and how is it studied?
Theology is probably not the correct word. However, if this was the word to use, theologists study the "Divine Wisdom". (Divine is probably not a good translation either, but it works for now.)

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In what sense? In the same way that centrifugal forces exist, or in the same way that you exist? If your god exists, where does he/she/it exist?
Is that it? Is this the best (only?) reason why I should believe (in?) your god?
Hrm, this is a tricky question. God exists, and we are a part of it. It's everywhere, including us. But God is not the ultimate (ultimate as in "beyond") for God cannot be beyond itself. You acknowledge god exists but living, whether or not you call it god is no big deal to us. This is what the ancients called it.

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Well, you did write: "However, if you can adhere to the morals, but not believe our god, then we have no problem with you." Was this just a typo?
I think the above statement corrects the misunderstanding (on both parts).

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Good. Does this include punishments of the "If you don't believe in the Law of Gravity then your punishment will be broken bones and severe concussion" type?
I take punishment to be a conscious decision, while broken bones from defying the Law of Gravity to be a consequence. We do use reason.

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Old 01-18-2006, 11:03 AM   #24
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1) What is X? What is not X?
2) Why X? What are the goals of X?
3) How does one practice X?
Those are very broad questions. It takes literally years to acquire a working knowledge of all of those. Unlike Christianity, where those could be summed up with two words or less.

1) Love. Sin.
2) Jesus. Jesus.
3) Faith.

Ok, so less.
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lenrek - let's be specific here. Think like an anthropologist studying this tribal group - we know what sort of questions you would ask, how about a couple of specific ones? How do you practice your religion, especially if it contains many complicated details that less matured religions usually carry, will produce a lot of babble and not a lot of meaningful information.
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Are morals absolute or relative?
->> Nothing in this world is absolutely right or wrong........to know whether something is right or wrong, one has to go, till eternity........

->> Man should have the right to choose his own morals.....this is the principle of the advaitic path........
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How does your religion view other religions?

Does your religion promote spreading of its beliefs?


To me it seems as if your religion is more of an attempt to create a utopic society then to fullfill the roles normally given to religion.
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Can you explain me the religion of your tribe ? If the man from this "unknown" tribe can speak more or less fluently english, I think he can answer the question.

Then I would like to experience :

Could I attend some ceremonies ? If so, can you come with me as a translator ?

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Let's say you stumble upon a new religion, one that no one has ever heard of before.
What is your source of life?

It is my opinion that life belongs to the mythology and we just borrow our temporal life from it. I have no problem with there only being one infinite source of life but the eternal portion belongs to the mythology wherein our God must be supreme until we are it.
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How does your religion view other religions?
Well, as long as religions don't promote actively violating the virtues is perfectly fine to exist on its own.

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Does your religion promote spreading of its beliefs?
Very carefully. We're not really evangelical.

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To me it seems as if your religion is more of an attempt to create a utopic society then to fullfill the roles normally given to religion.
What are the roles normally given to religion?
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