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Old 03-04-2007, 06:09 AM   #1
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Default What Jesus really meant when he was nailed to the cross.....(split from Head2Christ)

For those wondering what Jesus really meant while he was passing the time before his imminent death. Split from here.

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As an example, how would you feel if atheist appeared on christian boards every day posting 'Jesus recanted on the cross - he said there is no God'

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Except, of course, according to their own holy book, he did just that.
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My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:21 AM   #2
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Except, of course, according to their own holy book, he did just that.
There is a wonderful explanation of what that meant.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:24 AM   #3
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Then give it, TheBob, and stop making unsubstantiated assertions.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:31 AM   #4
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Then give it, TheBob, and stop making unsubstantiated assertions.
Where is the rule that I have to defend everything. Someone made an unsubstantiated assertion themselves (one they truly and obviously do not even understand) and that was that and that was good enough for you. How about the person who made the unsubstantiated assertion learn the explanation for themselves? Or do I have to spoonfeed them everything?
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:40 AM   #5
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Substantiation isn't necessarily quoting an authority; it's giving some explanation for your stance, no matter how nascent or half-arsed. Febble explained why she thinks that you're definition of a scientific theory is wrong; Ninasgrandpa quoted Jesus to support his own point. They made some effort towards substantiation. You, on the other hand, said that you had a 'wonderful' counter-explanation for Ninasgrandpa's point but then explicitly refused to provide it. That is not conducive to any sort of productive discussion; and productive discussions are what this message board exists for. It is not a forum for meaningless assertions and refusals to critically engage.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:47 AM   #6
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Substantiation isn't necessarily quoting an authority; it's giving some explanation for your stance, no matter how nascent or half-arsed. Febble explained why she thinks that you're definition of a scientific theory is wrong; Ninasgrandpa quoted Jesus to support his own point. They made some effort towards substantiation. You, on the other hand, said that you had a 'wonderful' counter-explanation for Ninasgrandpa's point but then explicitly refused to provide it. That is not conducive to any sort of productive discussion; and productive discussions are what this message board exists for. It is not a forum for meaningless assertions and refusals to critically engage.
I understand that.

What does Febble's explanation of why my definition of scientific theory was wrong have to do with anything? I offered what I thought, Febble said I was wrong, and I said "ok thanks". What's wrong with that?

Ninagrandpa did nothing but make an out of context quote that Ninasgrandpa doesn't even know the meaning of. I'm sorry but that is not even an ATTEMPT at substantiation. I did not explicitly refuse to provide a counter-explanation until I responded to your post. My first post had nothing explicit about it except to say this: "there is a wonderful explanation of that". However, since it appears ok for others to make unsubstantiated assertions but not myself, I will be back later on with some substantiation. Only to have someone uncritically reject it off hand without any sort of substantiation of course. If you'll excuse me I'll stop being privy to this and go to work.
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Ninagrandpa did nothing but make an out of context quote that Ninasgrandpa doesn't even know the meaning of.
Hell, I don't even care. It's just fiction.
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Old 03-05-2007, 12:14 PM   #8
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TheBob, could you share with me the explanation for jesus having cried out about being forsaken?

I would love to discuss it.

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TheBob, could you share with me the explanation for jesus having cried out about being forsaken?

I would love to discuss it.

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I'm sure he would have loved to explain it, too... after bitching about how he shouldn't have to for a couple more pages. But, alas, he's been banned.
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Khaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn!
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