jackie lee

I had always believed a day was 1,000 years at that time in history, If that be the case then Adam died within that day at 930 years.

Therese

Another I have heard is 'a day is as a thousand years for god' This could be used to say that a day is a really long time for god, but not any specific length.

NOGO

There is no indication that Adam and Eve were immortal before they ate of the apple.

The serpent was correct they did not die but their eyes opened and they knew good and evil like the Gods. This was confirmed by the Gods themselves.
So the serpent was truthful about what would happen and God wasn't.

Adam and Eve were already mortal and if they had eaten of the tree of life they would have become immortal.

badger3k

BTW thanks to everyone for the posts and information.

I wonder how anyone can justify this type of usage. Doesn't the Bible also give examples of people's lives? If we're using 1,000 (or whatever) of our years as "one day", then shouldn't some of the patriarchs still be alive?

I know...I'm sure the argument is that it is "day=1,000+ yrs" only when referring to god, or when he speaks. Although it makes me wonder why he (omnipotent that he is) would speak to these humans in terms they would not understand, nor why the lifespan reduction reported by the recorders should drop so slowly. Seems to me that if the Fall is responsible for all bad things, then a thousand-year lifespan sure doesn't seem bad to me (considering the ages that some of them had kids, I doubt they were old and infirm for 800+ years). Can I be cursed like that? A couple-hundred years of youth would sure be punishment for me. :wave:

badger3k

I forget the book (or books) I read this in, but that myth does have some similarity to an Egyptian myth (although in that case, gaining morality was a good thing). At least, that's what I read. I have to admit I am not too familiar with Egyptian mythology (I went more for the archaeology and only surface mythology), so I can't say if there is a myth like this. I'm sure if nobody is familiar with this I can try and look it up, if needed.

jackie lee

I believe since Adam and Eve disobeyed our years were cut short also.
The reason is sin from my understanding. :devil1:

Clivedurdle

Are these written by the same author?

judge

Well there is an indication that they were not mortal though, that being that they would suffer death.
I think the only way to make sense of it is that were neither mortal (destined to die) or immortal (unable to die).

They would have been capable of death but need not have died. Augustine may be the one who articulated this view earliest.

The original immortals

Joan of Bark

I see the liberal interpretation of this passage as just another example of believers interpreting when it suits them while they take Genesis literally in other cases.