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RBH · 02-14-2006, 05:21 PM

Debate thread. This is the wholly unofficial but nevertheless-we'll-give-it a try peanut gallery thread.

RBH

PoodleLovinPessimist · 02-14-2006, 05:40 PM

I predict that the "debate" is going to be an epistemological "you can't prove a designer doesn't exist" train wreck.

PoodleLovinPessimist · 02-14-2006, 05:47 PM

My advice to Plognark: Put him on the defensive. Ask him about his "theories". Press him hard on falsifiability; the anti-Popperians here notwithstanding, I think it's the weakest point of any pseudoscientific ideology.

Another good tactic is to settle on something you both can agree is scientific, preferably something forensic like cosmology, and compare evolution/IDC to that science.

Arioch · 02-14-2006, 06:10 PM

I suppose a radiometric dating discussion will be in order won't it? I'm curious to see if the creo will bring up the 2nd law of thermodynamics. When that happens it will be game, set, match to Mr. Evo.

thanks,
---
Arioch
Two halves are equal
A cross between two evils
It's not an eviable lot

tezz · 02-14-2006, 06:41 PM

Delurks/

How exciting, a debate of our own here in E/C!

/Grabs popcorn, beer and sets irony meter to stun/

Relurks/

RBH · 02-14-2006, 06:51 PM

BTW, I split out PLP's epistemological challenge from the Ploggie/Penny thread. It's now here.

RBH, E/C Mod

Hoosier Daddy · 02-14-2006, 07:46 PM

Is this the E/C version of the ARN Rule 9 threads that featured Sal "Rope-a-dope" Cordova vs. all comers?

RBH · 02-14-2006, 07:48 PM

Nope, not exactly. It's a kind of experiment. There's no penalty or prohibition, but it's a way to let these two gus rassle with a peanut gallery watching as disinguished from scatter-shotting the thread. 'Sall.

RBH

Hoosier Daddy · 02-14-2006, 07:56 PM

Okey dokey

Worldtraveller · 02-15-2006, 05:30 AM

I think it's a great idea, RBH. Keep us sharks from all taking a nibble out of the fresh carcass...

Make sure Oolon sees this before he starts posting his hominid skull pictures!! hehe

Anyone wanna take bets on when/which post we'll see 2LoT show up? Or any other of the old standards?

It's been a while since we've had a YECer here it seems. (Bucky was OEC?)

Anyway, I gots my popcorn and caffiene.

ETA: I was going to play devil's advocate and respond to PLP's thread, but I can't even put myself in a position where I could answer that from a creationist perspective. Sorry, PLP, I was gonna try and give you some fun....

Cheers,
Lane

02-14-2006, 05:21 PM	#1
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	Peanut Gallery for Ploggie/Penny 'debate' Debate thread. This is the wholly unofficial but nevertheless-we'll-give-it a try peanut gallery thread. RBH

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02-14-2006, 05:40 PM	#2
PoodleLovinPessimist Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,826	I predict that the "debate" is going to be an epistemological "you can't prove a designer doesn't exist" train wreck.

02-14-2006, 05:47 PM	#3
PoodleLovinPessimist Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,826	My advice to Plognark: Put him on the defensive. Ask him about his "theories". Press him hard on falsifiability; the anti-Popperians here notwithstanding, I think it's the weakest point of any pseudoscientific ideology. Another good tactic is to settle on something you both can agree is scientific, preferably something forensic like cosmology, and compare evolution/IDC to that science.

02-14-2006, 06:10 PM	#4
Arioch Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Planet earth Posts: 26	I suppose a radiometric dating discussion will be in order won't it? I'm curious to see if the creo will bring up the 2nd law of thermodynamics. When that happens it will be game, set, match to Mr. Evo. thanks, --- Arioch Two halves are equal A cross between two evils It's not an eviable lot

02-14-2006, 06:41 PM	#5
tezz Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: FNQ, Australia Posts: 381	Delurks/ How exciting, a debate of our own here in E/C! /Grabs popcorn, beer and sets irony meter to stun/ Relurks/

02-14-2006, 06:51 PM	#6
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	BTW, I split out PLP's epistemological challenge from the Ploggie/Penny thread. It's now here. RBH, E/C Mod

02-14-2006, 07:46 PM	#7
Hoosier Daddy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Hoosier State Posts: 82	Is this the E/C version of the ARN Rule 9 threads that featured Sal "Rope-a-dope" Cordova vs. all comers?

02-14-2006, 07:48 PM	#8
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	Nope, not exactly. It's a kind of experiment. There's no penalty or prohibition, but it's a way to let these two gus rassle with a peanut gallery watching as disinguished from scatter-shotting the thread. 'Sall. RBH

02-14-2006, 07:56 PM	#9
Hoosier Daddy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Hoosier State Posts: 82	Okey dokey

02-15-2006, 05:30 AM	#10
Worldtraveller Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,834	I think it's a great idea, RBH. Keep us sharks from all taking a nibble out of the fresh carcass... Make sure Oolon sees this before he starts posting his hominid skull pictures!! hehe Anyone wanna take bets on when/which post we'll see 2LoT show up? Or any other of the old standards? It's been a while since we've had a YECer here it seems. (Bucky was OEC?) Anyway, I gots my popcorn and caffiene. ETA: I was going to play devil's advocate and respond to PLP's thread, but I can't even put myself in a position where I could answer that from a creationist perspective. Sorry, PLP, I was gonna try and give you some fun.... Cheers, Lane

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