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Old 02-28-2012, 11:17 AM   #51
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You didn't answer any of my questions
those were questions, I thought it was a rant
He is abusing our tolerance.

What this person is doing is flooding the forum with "quotes" from the Memar Marqah, the Samaritan version of the Torah, and insulting people for not following his incoherent sectarian bubble.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:20 AM   #52
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those were questions, I thought it was a rant
He is abusing our tolerance.

What this person is doing is flooding the forum with "quotes" from the Memar Marquah, the Samaritan version of the Torah, and insulting people for not following his incoherent sectarian bubble.
Thanks bud, I see it.
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I'm abusing the forum by rejecting it's unfounded cynicism? why does a discussion of parallels between Clement and Marqe need to go through the sewer of uninformed hatred and bigotry? the thread is not another in the endless series of "here's why the bible sucks" which pervades the forum. Sorry but the world is not in black and white
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need to go through the sewer of uninformed hatred and bigotry?
looking in a mirror?


so far i tried to debate "only" and you made personal attacks.


the script you posted was not written by or for anything but hebrews.


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I'm abusing the forum by rejecting it's unfounded cynicism?
yes you are.

you havnt hit any cynicism you havent brought on yourself.



You have made a statement not supported by the poeple who wrote the scripture
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why then do you post comments in a thread that is incompatible with your uninformed speculation about the Pentateuch? This is not a thread which reinforces the notion that 'it's all bullshit.' So why bring the 'it's all bullshit' argument to a thread about the parallels between Clement and Marqe? You have nothing to add nor any knowledge about either Clement or Marqe. Why then promote your agenda rather than participate in the usual threads which are more suited to your ignorance level? The kind of comment which would be appreciated here is one which either (a) acknowledges that there are parallels and advances other lines of argument or (b) argues against the claim of parallels.
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Why would anyone assume a twofold process? Who assumed it before Clement?
The short answers is (a) not Philo (at least openly) but (b) not any other early Father (at least that I can see) but (c) yes Marqe albeit not with reference to Genesis 1:26 (maybe he did but we only have so many parshiot of commentary a fraction of the original. I will demonstrate Marqe's notion from his commentary on the Great Song (Deut 32)
There is a distinction in Irenaeus between the image of God and the similitude/likeness of God which is possibly relevant. See Against Heresies book 5
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But when the spirit here blended with the soul is united to [God's] handiwork, the man is rendered spiritual and perfect because of the outpouring of the Spirit, and this is he who was made in the image and likeness of God. But if the Spirit be wanting to the soul, he who is such is indeed of an animal nature, and being left carnal, shall be an imperfect being, possessing indeed the image [of God] in his formation (in plasmate), but not receiving the similitude through the Spirit; and thus is this being imperfect.
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You see? This is an intelligent person who adds illumination to the discussion rather than trying to bring everything down into the gutter. I don't agree with Mr. Criddle on every issue but my respect for him is beyond compare.

Thank you Andrew. You enrich the forum by your continued participation here.
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It has nothing to do with intelligence! And going back again to Against Heresies makes people puke!!!
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why then do you post comments in a thread that is incompatible with your uninformed speculation about the Pentateuch? This is not a thread which reinforces the notion that 'it's all bullshit.' So why bring the 'it's all bullshit' argument to a thread about the parallels between Clement and Marqe? You have nothing to add nor any knowledge about either Clement or Marqe. Why then promote your agenda rather than participate in the usual threads which are more suited to your ignorance level? The kind of comment which would be appreciated here is one which either (a) acknowledges that there are parallels and advances other lines of argument or (b) argues against the claim of parallels.
Your way off base and unfounded in your poor ignorant accusations.


You dont know the first thing about me to make any poor generalizations due to your ignorance on how I feel about the first 5 books as I havnt discussed my position here. YOUR clueless

pull your head out, your not all that, and im not a myther.


there is a difference between both books but more importantly how there interpreted.


Ancient hebrews didnt write about the heafter in that script no matter how much you let your imagination get to it.


Clement and Marqe is one thing, but when you make claims your hiney cant cash concerning modern scholarships, you fail.
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And going back again to Against Heresies makes people puke!!!
So Andrew's post is 'unwelcomed' and the only type of posts that are welcomed are those which further the 'it's all bullshit' argument. Why even bother participating in this thread? I am interested in learning what I can about the truth and you seem to be only interested in snide one-liners to reaffirm your own prejudices. I am neither a Christian nor a Samaritan but I am interested in seeing where things lead by an exploration of new ideas and new material. Why aren't you interested in that?
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