ichabod crane

Aren't women fully human?

Oooookeeeeey ...

highpreistess

Mary was fully human, and equal to man. She had an immaculate concept
which is beyond fallen man's understanding. Remember Cain raped
Abel, and forced her in the way of the sodomite. Cain put the flesh
before the spirit. And so all men are born the way of the sodomite.

Mary gave forth the way Abel did, before she was raped. Before she
became a bag of blood. Mary understood the random equation of
natural selection as the true seed of potential.

The world was filled with men practicing bloodlilne. Filled with sodomites,
those who would steal a woman's womb to project themselves through
time and space.

Mary did not bring forth from this corrupt seed, Jesus was an immaculate
concept, having nothing to do with sodomy or the worship of bloodline.
He was what would bring salvation to this dark world, the consciousness
of 'any' man, as opposed to specific man.

Mary or her family was never raped by nephilim, or their progeny. She
was wholly human, having no blood of the fallen angels within her.
She brought forth the second Adam, and finished the work of her
sister, Abel. hp

Chili

Nobody is either fully human or fully woman for these two are opposites and we all are woman and human to the same extent that we are not either human or woman. This makes our sexuality an illusion and a human condition.

In our humanity we are fallen creatures and in our womanity we are the true representations of man in the image of God for woman was taken from man already before the fall so she can be the womb of man wherein the image of God is to be re-created.

Our Mary, therefore, was without a human identity to give good old Joseph as second chance in life and she will do the same for us.

Chili

But man is not human and that is the only reason why is Mary equal to man. Man became human after the fall in Gen.3 and that was when the prefix -hu was placed before him. -Hu is from -humi and means earthly to make man a heavenly creature--if you allow me to place heaven opposite to earth. Man and woman were equal and always will be equal beyond their fallen nature. The secret to the redemption of man is the preservation of Mary's womanity (the imprisonment of Mary alluded to in Luke 1:47) for which reason Mary {read woman} must play the subservient role in humans so she can redeem her man when his humanity is nealy exhausted.

Yes the Immaculate conception is beyond human perception.

Matrix

Yes actually he was a "bastard" in the sense of being concieved out of wed lock. But he was not born out of wed lock.

Deuteronomy 23
2 No one born of a forbidden marriage [1] nor any of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD , even down to the tenth generation.

There was nothing forbidden about the marriage. Bad KJV translation.

Non Sequitor. Jesus didn't sin, by being born. You need to read the context of the passage you brought forth. :banghead:

cogito cogito,

Mike

fallingblood

How would anyone know if Jesus was born in a special way? I mean we don't know what happened for 18 years of his life, but we supposedly know how he was born? It doesn't add up.
Plus, Joseph would have had to been the father because if he wasn't, Jesus wasn't the true messiah.