jack_hunter

"This is one of the greatest messages of the New Testament. Love thy neighbour as thyself - Do onto others as you would have them do onto you - Turn the other cheek!"



Let's say someone breaks into your home and is creeping towards your daughter/sister/cousin's bedroom with a knife in his hand. You stand there in the hallway and there happens to be a baseball bat in front of you.

Will you let him walk into her bedroom and then forgive him for raping and murdering daughter/sister/cousin? Will you love him as you love yourself?




So in this case, will you not"turn the other cheek"? this is a fine example of hypocrite.

No person of great mental maturity, including you, sees any beauty in a man sitting back and watching while his daughter is raped and then in "good Christain pacifism" tossing a second daughter in to be ravaged. Could you imagine if your workplace was full of people stealing, beating, and raping each other and the victims just keep smiling and taking it and even giving money yo utheir tormentors as a reward for messing them over? It take s a sick and demented mind to think there was any beayty in such lewd chaos.

Ellis14

I believe you have mentioned another example of Christian compartmentalism at work. Agree exactly with what you are saying.

jdlongmire

How do you reckon this could be interpreted?

Luke 22:

35 And He said to them, "When I sent you out without money belt and bag and sandals, you did not lack anything, did you?" They said, "No, nothing." 36 And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one."

Self defense, maybe?

Ellis14

If it is, then would you say that that constitutes Jesus contradicting himself?

Marduk

I read that the phrase ‘turn the other cheek’ was actually an insult in old times, much like “you want some of this? Go on, do it again ya pansy, is that all ya got�? more of an insult than anything else. I think most of what was written 2000 or so years ago is lost in translation and on a modern audience unfamiliar with local customs and such.

mrmoderate

I haven't heard this about "turn the other cheek" but I have been teaching the general attitude of this post for years.

Can you imagine what translators will make of "chill out", "that's cool", "he's a bad dude" etc. 2000 years from now?

jdlongmire

Nah, I think we have been given discernment, so God does not have to go into intricate detail as it pertains to situational if, then's.

If your rear-end is dirty, then clean it.

If you are persecuted and it is not for My name-sake, or righteousness, then defend yourself...

long winded fool

So, if refusing to hurt someone else while they hurt someone you care about is sick and demented, is refusing to hurt someone else while they hurt you any different? Why or why not? If a child is hitting me in the head with his toy firetruck, am I sick and demented if I forgive him? If I take no physical action against him? Is it a sign of mental maturity to hurt him back and mental immaturity to allow him to hurt me without getting physical? What if it is a teenager? Or an adult? What if it is a knife or a pistol instead of a toy truck? If the situation changes, why? Which is preferable? Two people being violent to each other, or one person being violent to another?

A justified action is not necessarily a moral one. If two wrongs don't make a right, does a justified wrong as a response to another wrong become a right?

Nasreddin

If someone does not think that the wafers you are eating are actual Christflesh, invade and massacre them for their heresy. Discernment, indeed.


Or maybe he actually wants there to be thousands of different Christian sects? After all, supposedly only a few will find salvation - perhaps there's only a limited number of spots up there, and without a genocide or two he'd be quite overbooked...

GermanHeretic

negative * negative = positve