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mountainman · 01-18-2011, 08:23 AM

There is no crime for those who have Christ: religious violence in the Christian Roman Empire (or via: amazon.co.uk), authored by Michael Gaddis,
is also available via Google Books.

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"There is no crime for those who have Christ," claimed a fifth-century zealot, neatly expressing the belief of religious extremists that righteous zeal for God trumps worldly law. This book provides an in-depth and penetrating look at religious violence and the attitudes that drove it in the Christian Roman Empire of the fourth and fifth centuries, a unique period shaped by the marriage of Christian ideology and Roman imperial power.

Drawing together materials spanning a wide chronological and geographical range, Gaddis asks what religious conflict meant to those involved, both perpetrators and victims, and how violence was experienced, represented, justified, or contested. His innovative analysis reveals how various groups employed the language of religious violence to construct their own identities, to undermine the legitimacy of their rivals, and to advance themselves in the competitive and high-stakes process of Christianizing the Roman Empire.

Gaddis pursues case studies and themes including martyrdom and persecution, the Donatist controversy and other sectarian conflicts, zealous monks' assaults on pagan temples, the tyrannical behavior of powerful bishops, and the intrigues of church councils. In addition to illuminating a core issue of late antiquity, this book also sheds light on thematic and comparative dimensions of religious violence in other times, including our own.

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"This is an extremely interesting, stimulating and very useful book. Gaddis has succeeded in drawing together a wide geographic and chronological range of materials to give a nuanced and comprehensive picture. Though a prevalent theme in the ancient authors that has been studied on occasion, Christian violence has had to wait until now for a systematic treatment."

--Susanna Elm, author of Virgins of God: The Making of Asceticism in Late Antiquity

"Gaddis tackles head on the darker side of familiar victories-the heroism and courage of martyrs, the toleration and expansion of Christianity, the cultivation and influence of holiness-and does so with verve and a breadth of reference and learning. His book provides not only a rounded picture of the late Roman Christian empire but also bases for reflection on contemporary issues."

--Philip Rousseau, author of The Early Christian Centuries

aeebee50 · 01-18-2011, 07:06 PM

Man is fallible, but the Pope is infallible.

Bullmoose Too · 01-21-2011, 02:23 PM

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Man is fallible, but the Pope is infallible.

But the pope is a man.

Chili · 01-21-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aeebee50

Man is fallible, but the Pope is infallible.

Correct and a necessary condition as Pope or the Freeman would not be free.

Chili · 01-22-2011, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aeebee50

Man is fallible, but the Pope is infallible.

Correct and a necessary condition as Pope or the Freeman would not be free.

I know it takes a lot of 'guts' for the Church to declare the Papal seat infallible but that is only done to declare the 'insight of Peter' infallible as the seat of Paul who was our first pope and his successors in "ex cathedra" form after that.

Of course this then is also how the Freeman is "pope of his own."

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