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Old 01-07-2004, 04:02 PM   #1
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premises:
-the male penis must be erect for sex to happen
-once a male comes, his cack is no longer erect
-the female orgasm serves to suck the cum up into the woman (so it doesn't fall back out of her koochie)
-the man wants to impregnate the woman (genes into the next generation and whatnot)
-the male wants to give her an orgasm to increase the chances of her getting pregnant
-the men most likely to pass on their genes are the ones who give women orgasms
-men must not cum too fast, and must keep an erection until the woman is also ready to do so
-women have orgasms more often when they're being submissive, sexually, and the man is dominating

conclusion:
-it is in their best interest (in terms of evolutionary fitness) for men to be dominant, and women to be submissive



I know that's rather rough, and i skipped some steps, but you can figure em out


thoughts?
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:04 PM   #2
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Apart from your final one, all of your premises appear completely unrelated to your conclusion. Welcome to elsewhere.
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why'd this get moved


it's an evolutionary question that I find interesting


just b/c it was my first post doesn't mean I was trolling
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Apart from your final one, all of your premises appear completely unrelated to your conclusion. Welcome to elsewhere.
edited my conclusion


I don't see how the premises don't relate

perhaps you could provide a counterargument
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Here's one: With the exception of the last one, none of your premises is related to your conclusion. And that premise is false.
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You haven't had sex?

Most of you assertions are not relevant to your underlying belief that women are meant to be submissive.

What makes you think that women are more likely to have an orgasm when they are submissive?
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What makes you think that women are more likely to have an orgasm when they are submissive?

extensive field evidence


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Most of you assertions are not relevant to your underlying belief that women are meant to be submissive
you see they're premises leading up to the conclusion

haven't any of you people at least taken an introductory philosophy class, or is it all pop around here
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Damn that drink others beat me to it.

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-the male penis must be erect for sex to happen
So what? women don't need to be submissive for this to happen. Doesn't even need a woman, I got a stiffy on the bus yesterday.

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-once a male comes, his cack is no longer erect
Again so what?

I could go on but the rest are pretty much the same.
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perhaps you could provide a counterargument
I suppose so. If your new conclusion suggests, as I think it does, that it is in a males best interest to be sexually dominant because it increases the probability of pregnancy, I must point out that couples in this happy modern age frequently vary their sexual habits in a bewildering smorgasboard of domination arrangements, and that this seems to have little negative effect on their fertility.
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extensive field evidence
So coz the women you were with were submissive and supposedly had orgasms that means it's true for all, not true and some women fake (Though I'm quite sure not with me, not that I'm bragging. It's becasue they are active participants.)

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you see they're premises leading up to the conclusion

haven't any of you people at least taken an introductory philosophy class, or is it all pop around here
Which you are asserting to be true I guess, and no, no phil classes here just biology.
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