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Here, try this. I think any reasonable reader will agree it's very much to the point here. |
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We've gone from vapid insults to churlish evasion of an argument, which - if you were to focus on it for a moment - reveals the pointlessness of your position.
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What alternative do you have? Russell relies, again, on argument from ridicule. Of course, he lived before space travel, and his trick argument does not work now, so sceptics have to invent a flying spaghetti monster instead.
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It is a common misconception on the part of both religionists and skeptics that the rejection of miracles is a kind of closed-mindedness. I recommend that, before pronouncing on this subject, people read Spinoza's treatment (p. 73):
Nothing, then, comes to pass in nature (N.B. I do not mean here by "nature," merely matter and its modifications, but infinite other things besides matter.) in contravention to her universal laws, nay, everything agrees with them and follows from them, for whatsoever comes to pass, comes to pass by the will and eternal decree of God; that is, as we have just pointed out, whatever comes to pass, comes to pass according to laws and rules which involve eternal necessity and truth; nature, therefore, always observes laws and rules which involve eternal necessity, and truth, although they may not all be known to us, and therefore she keeps a fixed and immutable order. |
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But, the scientific method works by employing reason, no? Thus, if you can't deal with it via science, reason is the next best thing. And, to reason something out, you need evidence, right? So, let's see something substantive that you've have us reason out. Something other than a Middle-Eastern fairy tale ... |
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