Toto

Yes, and that means that we can see that Noah was not particularly righteous.

But isn't that a point against the Bible? Why are you typing this?

Tigers!

It all hinges on whether Noah was right or not. If the flood came then he was not crazy, the neighbour was.

Diogenes the Cynic

So what should I do when my conscience tells me the God of the Bible is depraved, egotistical and amoral? My conscience tells me that if such a God exists, it is morally wrong to worship him. Is my conscience wrong? If my conscience is wrong does that mean I can't tell right from wrong? If I can't tell right from wrong, how can I be held accountable for mora; choices?

Kosh

It's not clear to me what's wrong with the naked part? Adam and Eve were nekkid, right? Is it only a problem when you're drunk and not sober? And what about being drunk when you're clothed? Lying around naked can be crucial if you live in Arizona, it stays hot there in the summer! You should try it sometime.

Doug Shaver

Yes, I've noticed that.

You're still not saying anything about the evidence Noah could have showed me, so let me try a little different scenario. Same setup: I see Noah building the boat and ask him what's up, and he tells me about God telling him of the imminent destruction of the world.

So, I go to the local temple and find the priest, whom I know to be a righteous man, and I tell him about my conversation with Noah. The priest says to me, "Noah is mistaken. God spoke to me this morning and said that he has not said anything to Noah."

Should I believe Noah or should I believe the priest? And please tell me why.

Doug Shaver

Is that always the case?

Whenever anybody doesn't believe something that turns out to be true, they were crazy not to believe it?

Julian

The fact that I, and most people I know, think differently on this point than you do clearly, empirically and unequivocally shows that you are plain wrong. You say that everyone knows yet here I am disagreeing with you on this point. Point refuted. C. S. Lewis tried to make the same point and he was equally wrong. I happen to think that righteous behavior has to do with how you treat others, not what you are wearing or whether you drink or not.

Julian

Boro Nut

I think it's clear from the fossil record that whatever grandiose plans they may have initially had, God's rather vague specification for the ark meant the selection ultimately came down to Noah's Patent Species Evaluator, ie the door height.

Boro Nut

Jack the Bodiless

...Except YOU, apparently.

(Note to self: NEVER underestimate the extent of any Christian's igorance of his/her "holy book")

Ho-hum. NEWSFLASH: according to the BIBLE, Noah got drunk and crashed out naked in his tent (Genesis 9:21).

Other good things that righteous folks do: genocide, baby-killing, human sacrifice, punishment of innocents for the crimes of others, taking captive girls as sex-slaves, forcing unmarried rape victims to marry their rapists. You can research those yourself, consider it a homework assignment.

Tigers!

Certainly for trival issues i.e your neighbour invited you to a party but you thought he was crazy and so ignored the invitation.
If the issue concerns life & death or possible injury, large loss of money etc: then the lack of willingness to believe/accept could be rather disasterous.